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Apr 14, 2013 21:01 |  #1

I tend to shoot landscapes and macros so I do not have much experience or knowledge about telephotos.

Going on an Alaska cruise and I would like to rent a lens. I will be taking a Float plane tour and a boat tour through Tracy Arm.

My equipment I will be taking includes:
Canon Mark 5d III
24-70 L

What are the pros and cons to your recommendation? I have never used an Extender either.




  
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Apr 14, 2013 21:54 |  #2

70-200 f/2.8 minimum for wildlife and a 1.4x extender. I went with those (and the 2X) before I bought some longer glass.

On my next trip I'll bring most of my gear. If you want to take lots of photos, travel heavy and bring lots of memory.

One nice thing is that you have 20+ hours of daylight.
See if you can get in some practice with what you rent before you go.

Have a great trip!


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Apr 14, 2013 22:06 |  #3

I've no experience on this type of trip but wouldn't a modern IS be helpful when shooting from a moving vessel, particularly if it vibrates?


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Apr 14, 2013 22:09 |  #4

Id go for a 100-400L for wildlife and something wide for landscape shots like the tokina 11-16 but your 24-70 would do great for that. The only other thing I can think of is a tripod but only if you use a teleconverter on the 100-400, if do you go the tripod route then you might as well rent a gimbal head as well. The only cons of the 100-400 are going to be the aperture at f/4.5-5.6 which may be slow, I don't think you will have problems on a 5D3 though because you can bump up the iso's with little to no noise degradations. The 100-400 performs very well handheld without an extender. Also if there is alot of snow or you are out on a boat consider some good quality B&H polarizer filters for your lenses.


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Apr 14, 2013 22:11 |  #5

On an Alaskan cruise and some of the tours you will probably be taking, you will find that a telephoto lens will come in real handy. Below are links to shots I got with a 70-300 back in 2008. Both shots were at or near 300.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=840922
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=840655

I would rent either the 70-300L or the 100-400L. I found that 300mm was long enough for the majority of my shots, but I do have a few where I wish I had more reach. Also, I was shooting with a crop and not ff. FF, I would go 100-400.

Alaska is incredible! Enjoy your trip.




  
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Apr 14, 2013 22:11 |  #6

kristinseyes wrote in post #15828256 (external link)
I tend to shoot landscapes and macros so I do not have much experience or knowledge about telephotos.

Going on an Alaska cruise and I would like to rent a lens. I will be taking a Float plane tour and a boat tour through Tracy Arm.

My equipment I will be taking includes:
Canon Mark 5d III
24-70 L

What are the pros and cons to your recommendation? I have never used an Extender either.

100-400L or 70-300L. forget the extenders. either lens will be great on the 5d3 because of it's excellence at hi ISOs. anytime you are on a boat or plane IS is helpful. keep your shutter speed on the high side with your 24-70L.

you'll love Alaska. our trip to Kodiak and then katmai was epic. you may want to consider a second camera as a back-up. have fun.


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Apr 15, 2013 11:34 as a reply to  @ ed rader's post |  #7

I would also recommend the 70-300L...nice and (relatively) light and compact. Good reach, great IS and focus speed. You also have a lot of leeway when it comes to cropping your photos since the lens has such great IQ.

I took an Alaska cruise 3 year ago and loved it. Tons of great photo opps and always be on the lookout. I was using my 55-250 then and could have used a bit more reach. I was on the back of the ship one day at one of the ports watching float planes take off and land and just happened to catch out of the corner of my eye a large bird flying nearby. I spun and captured a bald eagle flying right overheard. Wasn't really prepared for it but still got a couple of decent pics of him in flight. Like I said, always keep your camera handy and ready to go as you never know what you will see there.

Have fun...it's an amazing trip and easily one of my favorite vacations! Pack lots of memory cards!

You may want to consider renting a wide angle too. For me Alaska was all about landscapes (i.e. go wide) and wildlife (zoom). Even with my kit 18-55 (on a crop), there were definitely many instances where I wanted a much wider landscape shot. Far reaching mountain ranges and ocean views beg for a wide angle lens.

Are you doing Denali tour? TONS of great wildlife opps on that tour. We captured everything from grizzlies, to Dall's sheep, wolves, caribou, moose, lots of birds, etc., etc. Some much closer than expected. Don't know if it's normal or not, but we were able to see all the big ones and the wolf actually ran right past our bus and stopped within 30 yards to check out something right next to the road.


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Apr 15, 2013 13:33 |  #8

i'd rent the sigma 50-500OS.


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Apr 15, 2013 16:14 |  #9

I'd also suggest the 100-400 or 70-300 if you rent. I own a 70-200/2.8L IS II with a 1.4x and 2.0x TCs. It really is a pain to swap the TCs in/out.

I'm not a big fan of the 100-400's push pull design and it is an old design, but, it really is an awesome focal length.

The 70-300 is a great compromise if you want to go smaller/lighter as well have more modern optics and IS.

The 70-200 is a great lens, but, I don't think it's long enough. You want to be able to zoom in as tight as possible on distant subjects, such as a whale's tale.

Also, don't forget what how much room these longer zooms needs in your camera bag.


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Apr 15, 2013 17:29 |  #10

I'd go along with the 100-400 suggestions - good for wildlife, birds and many other things




  
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Apr 15, 2013 19:51 |  #11

I found my 100-400 too short. I guess it all depends on your situation.

I think i am gonna get better iq using a 2x TC with 70-200.


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Apr 15, 2013 20:09 |  #12

The float plane will be flying at a low altitude so you can use a medium wide to normal lens. Ask the pilot if you can fly right seat (that's up front in the co-pilot's seat) and you'll have the best view. You'll probably be flying in a Beaver. Some example footage shot from a float plane here (external link).




  
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Apr 15, 2013 20:20 |  #13

If you're going through Seattle, look into renting from Glazer's.

With full-frame, I would say the 100-400. They are relatively cheap to buy, too.


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Apr 15, 2013 21:06 |  #14

AlanU wrote in post #15831906 (external link)
I found my 100-400 too short. I guess it all depends on your situation.

I think i am gonna get better iq using a 2x TC with 70-200.

no way and it won't be any longer and certainly AF will struggle.


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Apr 16, 2013 00:45 |  #15

ed rader wrote in post #15832189 (external link)
no way and it won't be any longer and certainly AF will struggle.

Thing to consider is the micro contrast of the newer fresh coatings from canon makes a pretty sharp picture. I've looked at Raw files from a 70-200 f/2.8 mk2 with 2xTC (newest canon version) and find the images cleaner than a 100-400L.

I cannot comment on AF but for pure versatility of an infrequent "long" lens user I'd say a TC is a decent consideration.

The 100-400L is showing its age in image quality. The push/pull system is actually something I like :)

Op just a warning to you...... its better to ramp up the iso and land a sharper shot with faster shutter speeds and deal with noise later. If you shoot the typical manner and shoot lower ISO's with "reasonable shutter speeds" the 100-400L will not deliver "incredible tack sharp images". Play with micro adjust to maximize your sharpness where you will be shooting (400mm???)

I've used my 100-400L at the drag strip and it did a fine job. I'd probably go with a 70-300L (loose reach)for photos that resembles more like a 70-200 f/2.8 mk1 file.

What you will find in Alaska is you'd be craving for longer reach than a "small" 400mm long end from a 100-400L :P One key point on this lens is versatility with a hit on image quality. After looking at my files from the 100-400L I'm "ok" with the IQ but its not stellar compared to other canon lenses in different FL. Its a compromise and I'm almost wondering if a heavily cropped 70-200 file looks better than a non cropped 100-400L.

I look at the 100-400L as the least evil in image quality for a long zoom lens. If I took a photo at 200mm with my 70-200L and 100-400L I would very likely tell the difference in IQ simply because the incredibly beautiful micro contrast of the 70-200 mk2.

If you can wing it I'd rather leave the 24-70L at home and rent a 16-35Lmk2 for alaska.


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