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anyone got replaces their 70-200II with 85LII for portrait?

 
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Apr 14, 2013 20:20 |  #1

Hi,
I have been a fan of 70-200II for wedding portrait. Love the lens. A week ago, I just purchased the 85LII. Due to the lack of experience with the 85LII, I am yet to use it on formal wedding bridal portrait.

If you have the 85LII,
1. do you have some portrait tips to master the lens @1.2?
2. do you have any photos to share @1.2?
3. or should I look to shoot above 1.2 for portrait?

BTW, I am not saying that the 85LII is better than the 70-200II. I am think of cutting down the weight while walking around but maintain the same wow factor.

thank you.
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Apr 15, 2013 07:01 |  #2

Scott, there are lots of wedding pictures with the 85 f1.2 in this thread, if you care to look through it. But they may not give you the tips you are looking for.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1048516


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Apr 15, 2013 07:06 |  #3
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Check this thread instead - https://photography-on-the.net …read.php?t=8527​91&page=44

85LII shot @ f1.2 only.


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Apr 15, 2013 21:16 |  #4

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Apr 16, 2013 06:06 |  #5

MFG wrote in post #15828139 (external link)
Hi,
I have been a fan of 70-200II for wedding portrait. Love the lens. A week ago, I just purchased the 85LII. Due to the lack of experience with the 85LII, I am yet to use it on formal wedding bridal portrait.

If you have the 85LII,
1. do you have some portrait tips to master the lens @1.2?
2. do you have any photos to share @1.2?
3. or should I look to shoot above 1.2 for portrait?

BTW, I am not saying that the 85LII is better than the 70-200II. I am think of cutting down the weight while walking around but maintain the same wow factor.

thank you.
Scott

I've got an 85L. I wouldn't let the aperture dictate how you want to shoot, rather, let how you want to shoot dictate your aperture. F1.2 is perfectly useable for loosely framed portraits, however, you definitely want to use a larger aperture for tightly framed shots (ie headshots) so you can keep all of your subject in focus. Too many people 'abuse' shallow depths of field indiscrimately, IMO.

That said, I also own the 70-200 2.8II, and much prefer the 85 as a portrait lens. While the longer focal lengths of the 70-200 can create a very shallow DOF, they compress the background into a blur of color, and take the subject out of the context of its surroundings. 85mm keeps more of the background in the frame (semi-environmental), while still offering a very flattering perspective. Granted the 70-200 can 85mm too, but 85 at the larger apertures (again not necessarily 1.2) creates a sense of dimension that the 70-200 couldn't hope to create. The difference between even f2.8 and f2.0 can be rather significant. The 3 dimensional 'pop' you get from keeping the background elements in the frame, while isolating the subject with a larger aperture, is a look that's very much unique to fast primes. Don't overlook wider focal lengths (24, 35, and 50) for portraits too!


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Apr 16, 2013 07:40 |  #6

mystik610 wrote in post #15833116 (external link)
I've got an 85L. I wouldn't let the aperture dictate how you want to shoot, rather, let how you want to shoot dictate your aperture. F1.2 is perfectly useable for loosely framed portraits, however, you definitely want to use a larger aperture for tightly framed shots (ie headshots) so you can keep all of your subject in focus. Too many people 'abuse' shallow depths of field indiscrimately, IMO.

That said, I also own the 70-200 2.8II, and much prefer the 85 as a portrait lens. While the longer focal lengths of the 70-200 can create a very shallow DOF, they compress the background into a blur of color, and take the subject out of the context of its surroundings. 85mm keeps more of the background in the frame (semi-environmental), while still offering a very flattering perspective. Granted the 70-200 can 85mm too, but 85 at the larger apertures (again not necessarily 1.2) creates a sense of dimension that the 70-200 couldn't hope to create. The difference between even f2.8 and f2.0 can be rather significant. The 3 dimensional 'pop' you get from keeping the background elements in the frame, while isolating the subject with a larger aperture, is a look that's very much unique to fast primes. Don't overlook wider focal lengths (24, 35, and 50) for portraits too!

thank you. this is what i was waiting to hear. i feel the same as you too regarding gaining more of the background from the 85 than the compression of the 70-200 say at 200. i acknowledge that the 85 @1.2 is very shallow hence i am wanting to learn.. using the most appropriate aperture for the "best looking" portrait. i got the 35L and 24LII too. I mainly use the 35L for portrait as it has lesser distortion than 24.

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Apr 16, 2013 10:27 |  #7

I LOVE my 70-200 II for portraits as well. Like you, I am trying to learn to use my 85L, and practice using it to get amazing shots. I love it, but it does have a steep learning curve.


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