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FF bug is biting me...

 
Sirrith
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Apr 22, 2013 06:39 |  #16

I went FF, don't see any "magic" or anything. I got what I wanted: several stops better high ISO, better AF, weather sealing, bigger viewfinder. If a crop body existed that gave me all of those, I would be just as happy with it. Sensor size is given undue importance on these forums.

If you want FF, go for it. But don't do it because you think it will make your photos amazing.


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Apr 22, 2013 08:00 as a reply to  @ Sirrith's post |  #17

I had the FF "itch" too and got a 5DII to partner my 7D, and I don't regret it for a second. I don't see a night-and-day difference from crop, but I definitely prefer editing the files from the 5DII.


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Apr 22, 2013 08:19 as a reply to  @ Beanie's Dad's post |  #18

I also had the FF bug biting. I added a 5D3 a little over a week ago to go along with the 7D.

My observations are the 5D3 ISO performance is outstanding.

Comparing pictures taken with the 7D and 5D3, you can't tell the diference until you get to lower light situations. You can tell a difference in the reach on lenses between the two.

All in all, I think the two compliment each other and to me, it was a good choice, but I will add, it depends on what you are taking pictures of as to making the decision on going to FF.




  
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Apr 22, 2013 08:33 |  #19

I expect see a difference in :
- higher ISO usability- this will be substantial coming from the 20D
- brighter and full coverage viewfinder
- easy access to wide angle shots with my current 24-105 walk around lens

I would of course also hope that this fixes all my regular flaws in my shooting style :)

Beanie's dad - what is the typical lens that stays with your 5D2?


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Apr 22, 2013 08:45 |  #20

kram wrote in post #15854352 (external link)
Beanie's dad - what is the typical lens that stays with your 5D2?

Well my 17-40 sees the most use right now, followed by the 50 f1.4 and the 85 f1.8
I use the 5D2 mostly for landscapes and portraits. The 7D gets used for sport/action and walkaround (still got my 17-55).


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Apr 22, 2013 08:53 |  #21

For me fast lenses shine on FF particular on something like 5dmk3 where AF is finally better than any crop camera.


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Apr 22, 2013 09:17 |  #22

Sirrith wrote in post #15854092 (external link)
If you want FF, go for it. But don't do it because you think it will make your photos amazing.

QFT

A few months ago I jumped to a 5D3 from an XTi for no good reason other than I wanted to. That's not to say it was a trivial decision - it was a major expense - but I enjoy using the 5D3 so much more that I feel it was justified. So go for it!

If you're like me your photos will actually get a little worse before they start to look better. It took me some time to adjust to using a much more complex camera.


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Apr 22, 2013 09:36 |  #23

I truly enjoy using my 6D much more than my previous 7D in every aspect with the exception the reach of lenses. I think the 24-105 is a wonderful walk around lens with a very useful range.. much like the 15-85 EFS lens on a crop with a faster aperture. Perhaps the 7D II will have a more useful ISO range but the current crops did not fill my need for low light performance.


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Apr 22, 2013 09:45 |  #24

95flhr wrote in post #15854323 (external link)
I also had the FF bug biting. I added a 5D3 a little over a week ago to go along with the 7D.

My observations are the 5D3 ISO performance is outstanding.

Comparing pictures taken with the 7D and 5D3, you can't tell the diference until you get to lower light situations. You can tell a difference in the reach on lenses between the two.

All in all, I think the two compliment each other and to me, it was a good choice, but I will add, it depends on what you are taking pictures of as to making the decision on going to FF.

This is what I seem to hear more and more, so I think if your not making money with your camera, it is a personal decision if the extra $2000 plus for a 5dmkiii over the 7d is worth it? My wife say NO:o




  
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Apr 22, 2013 10:00 as a reply to  @ skw's post |  #25

Hmmm....interesting topic - as always - and both sides are coming out a-plenty!

Like you, I also shoot with the 7D (used two, for pro concerts until recently) and had NO complaints at all.

But one body began to show its age, and so I had to decide how to replace it.

I did so much research it began to be painful, but a pro friend said, "Try the 6D...you'll be surprised".

And I was.

ISO5000+ is effortless.
The controls are so EASY! And yet there's plenty of customisation available via the menus.

The ease with which I can use it, reminds me of when I shot with a Praktica BC1, 30+ years ago. Or in other words, I feel like I'mtaking photos again...not the technology.

But, enough praise for the 6D.

My point is, I had to buy a new body, because, at the very least, doing a pro shoot with one body is looking for trouble!

If you don't NEED to buy a new body, the 7D is plenty....and I think you know it.

BUT, if you can afford a second body, it's GREAT fun! And for my money (concerts here don't offer a big profit margin!), the 6D is the way to go.
That, and my remaining 7D make a great pair!

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Apr 22, 2013 10:05 as a reply to  @ mark2009's post |  #26

ed rader wrote in post #15851899 (external link)
don't let the crop boys talk you down. FF is definitely where it's at ;).

Just Be wrote in post #15851907 (external link)
Agree! I had no idea until I saw it for myself.

bobbyz wrote in post #15854400 (external link)
For me fast lenses shine on FF particular on something like 5dmk3 where AF is finally better than any crop camera.

For me the way the lens behaved was more than worth it when I dumped the 7D for a 5D. Prime lens were designed and shine on FF sensors. I will never go back to a 1.6x sensor as my main body due to the fact I don't need the reach for my type of photography.


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Apr 22, 2013 10:06 |  #27

skygod44 wrote in post #15854589 (external link)
If you don't NEED to buy a new body, the 7D is plenty....and I think you know it.

Simon

Come on, with that one quote, I now have to hide the POTN link at home:rolleyes:.

I will look into the 6D a little more closely as it seems to be close to a 2nd hand 5D2 in price....


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Apr 22, 2013 10:12 |  #28

kram wrote in post #15854607 (external link)
Come on, with that one quote, I now have to hide the POTN link at home:rolleyes:.

Hahahahaha!
Sorry....
:o

But, Missus Skygod didn't even know I'd changed a 7D to a 6D until after one of her concerts, where a friend's husband asked what she thought of the photos from my new camera!
:lol:

I will look into the 6D a little more closely as it seems to be close to a 2nd hand 5D2 in price....

Do.

I'm constantly being impressed with what it does.

Last week, I got 2,366 shots out of it and still had 26% showing in the battery AFTER I'd emptied the memory card to my computer!

Couldn't do that with my 7D, even though it's the same type of battery!

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Apr 22, 2013 11:23 |  #29

There's always the EF-S 10-22 if you simply want wider.




  
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Apr 22, 2013 12:06 as a reply to  @ post 15854087 |  #30

Get a 6D.


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