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Apr 24, 2013 12:43 |  #1081

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Elv just posted a MONUMENTAL review of the CL-180/AD-180 on his Flashhavoc blog. Extraordinary effort on Elv's part; certainly as thorough a review of a flash device as I've ever seen. Be forewarned, it's LONG but well worth wading through.

Fantastic job, Elv. Thank you.



Very nice job indeed. A lot of work went into putting that review together. Thanks Elv that was very informative and the side by side comparrisons very enlightening.


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Apr 24, 2013 16:12 |  #1082

tetrode wrote in post #15862134 (external link)
Elv just posted a MONUMENTAL review of the CL-180/AD-180 on his Flashhavoc blog. Extraordinary effort on Elv's part; certainly as thorough a review of a flash device as I've ever seen. Be forewarned, it's LONG but well worth wading through.

For once in a very long, l o n g time, we have a proper and professional review of an item of equipment instead of the superficial flim-flam which some folks seem to think constitutes a 'review'. Not merely a rewrite of of a press release or a shaky video of someone opening a box and getting their 'latest toy' from it to play with. Instead, we have something actually worth reading.

As someone who used to do this for the UK trade press, I know just how much work is involved in correlating the information, let alone presenting it in a cogent manner. Yes, there are one or two typos - but they actually add benefit as readers realise that these are the considered views and observations of someone who has actually used the equipment, observed salient points and drawn worthwhile conclusions.

My compliments to Elvis.


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Apr 24, 2013 19:59 as a reply to  @ Whortleberry's post |  #1083

How useful would this be:

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I think it would be *very* useful. What I'm referring to is the Quantum QF36T 8-foot extension cable seen connected to a CL-180 in the above image. The cable allows the flashtube to be positioned up to 8 feet away from the body of the flash. This can be quite handy. Unfortunately, even though the Quantum plug and socket are compatible with the CL-180 flash body and flashtube the combination does not work. Here's why:

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Only two of the four pins on the Quantum cable are wired through to the socket. I disassembled the plug and discovered that the cable is four conductor with only the black and white wires used. The red and green wires are not connected at either the plug or socket end. Further, of the two pins that are wired, only one corresponds to an active pin on the CL-180 flashtube (the trigger wire). Too bad :-(

Is this an accessory Godox should consider offering? I say yes. What do you say?



  
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Apr 24, 2013 20:47 |  #1084

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How useful would this be:

I think it would be *very* useful. What I'm referring to is the Quantum QF36T 8-foot extension cable seen connected to a CL-180 in the above image. The cable allows the flashtube to be positioned up to 8 feet away from the body of the flash. This can be quite handy. Unfortunately, even though the Quantum plug and socket are compatible with the CL-180 flash body and flashtube the combination does not work. Here's why:

Only two of the four pins on the Quantum cable are wired through to the socket. I disassembled the plug and discovered that the cable is four conductor with only the black and white wires used. The red and green wires are not connected at either the plug or socket end. Further, of the two pins that are wired, only one corresponds to an active pin on the CL-180 flashtube (the trigger wire). Too bad :-(

Is this an accessory Godox should consider offering? I say yes. What do you say?

An absolute yes from me, would love to see something like this offered. I would feel much better having my CL 180 close to the ground rather than extended high up on a light stand especially when out in the wind which is pretty typical conditions where I live.


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Apr 24, 2013 22:10 |  #1085

Dave,
That would be a great benefit. Especially since the remote appears to accept modifiers the same way the head does.

Elv,
Great review. Well done.


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Apr 24, 2013 22:31 |  #1086

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How useful would this be:

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Is this an accessory Godox should consider offering? I say yes. What do you say?

I too say yes. If this was offered I would definitely want it. Especially if it had easy way to mount on umbrella shaft and still accept reflectors. Think placement in small (19") Westcott Apollo or Softlighters. I hate cable connection on top though. I feel it would be much better if it was on bottom or side going straight down.




  
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Apr 24, 2013 23:56 |  #1087

I wonder how hard it would be to put a cable between the body and head of the CL-180.
With a bit of DIY engineering it should be possible to put a base on the head. Maybe the CL-300 base with 1/4-20 receptacle.
Not the instant adaptation this offers but still a useful optional light.

Or maybe Edward can talk Godox into taking some heads and putting a cable out the back with plug for the CL-180 tube mount with about a 3 meter cable. Having a base with 1/4 20 attachment would complete the package. All the modifiers would fit the extender as well as the flash unit since its the same head.


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Apr 25, 2013 00:33 as a reply to  @ dmward's post |  #1088

It's not something I can see myself being interested in. Add the pack and your looking at a PITA if you ask me. If I want a separate head I would use my hensel pack.

Pack to head = cool

Pack to body to head = too cumbersome / too many wires.


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Apr 25, 2013 01:20 as a reply to  @ Gareth O'Neill's post |  #1089

Quantum Telephoto reflector w/ CL 180 test #1

Took these images tonight to check the beam of light thrown by Tele Reflector.

Canon 5D mII w/EF 24-105L @ 24mm manual mode, f/4, 1/125, ISO 800
CL 180 1/1 (full) power, light aimed at overhead door 110 feet from flash
Flash on light stand to camera right, height 6'

1st image w/ Quantum Telephoto Reflector using the flashbulb extender
2nd image w/ Quantum Telephoto Reflector flashbulb only, no extender


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Apr 25, 2013 01:26 as a reply to  @ agv8or's post |  #1090

Quantum Telephoto reflector w/ CL 180 test #2

Took these images tonight to check the beam of light thrown by Tele Reflector.

Canon 5D mII w/EF 24-105L @ 24mm manual mode, f/4, 1/125, ISO 800
CL 180 aimed at overhead door 110 feet from flash
Flash on light stand to camera right, height 6'

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Apr 25, 2013 06:11 as a reply to  @ agv8or's post |  #1091

thanks for these. it's very obvious the extender is required.

did you use the diffusor for the standard reflector shot?

do you have a better beamer? can you do a flashgun w/ beamer vs cl-180 w/ tele reflector comparison? at full power and say 1/4.


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Apr 25, 2013 07:41 |  #1092

would love a head/bulb extension kit :)


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Apr 25, 2013 20:48 |  #1093

Gareth ONeill wrote in post #15865261 (external link)
=Gareth O'Neill;15865261]thank​s for these. it's very obvious the extender is required.

did you use the diffusor for the standard reflector shot?

do you have a better beamer? can you do a flashgun w/ beamer vs cl-180 w/ tele reflector comparison? at full power and say 1/4.

When the weather straightens up I will do a comparison with a Better Beamer and 580EX II as well as a 600EX-RT at the 200mm zoom. The image, shot at 1/4 power, was to show that the Quantum telephoto reflector is 2+ stops brighter than when using the Cheetah standard reflector with no diffuser disk.


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Apr 25, 2013 20:55 |  #1094

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When the weather straightens up I will do a comparison with a Better Beamer and 580EX II as well as a 600EX-RT at the 200mm zoom. The image, shot at 1/4 power, was to show that the Quantum telephoto reflector is 2+ stops brighter than when using the Cheetah standard reflector with no diffuser disk.

Would be fun to see how effective the tele reflector is in H mode with the sun.

Those two stops would be a real benefit.


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Apr 25, 2013 21:01 |  #1095

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Would be fun to see how effective the tele reflector is in H mode with the sun.

Those two stops would be a real benefit.

Wouldn't tele reflector only light very small part of the subject?


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