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My wife gave me the green-light! Now what?

 
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Apr 25, 2013 22:48 |  #1

I recently submitted my application for retirement. My wife has given me the go-ahead to buy myself a little present. I've had my eye on a 24-70 II for a little while now, and that tops my list. It also rounds out my lens collection nicely. I really do need an f/2.8 mid-range zoom.

Alas, being a woman, she has complicated the issue. She knows my 5D is quite old, and that I am happy with it, for the most part. She suggests that I may want a new camera, also. If I can afford either the 6D or 5D3, is there a significant reason to choose the 5D3? I mostly use center-point AF only. If I think I am going to need ISO 3200+, I can shoot my 60D.

I have read through the "Why 5d3?" threads and most people say high-ISO and AF are their reasons for going with the 5D3. The 6D is reviewed to be slightly better at high-ISO. It also has a higher DLA. I don't care about 2 cards - I've never had a problem with either CF or SD. All this and the fact that 98% of the time I am using the center point makes the 6D sound like a winner. Keep in mind, I am basically happy with my 5D, except for low-light AF, where it really stinks. I have to mount a flash just to use the focus assist.

The price difference is irrelevant. Size and weight is irrelevant; I still manage a gripped 60D and 100-400L. This will most likely be my last DSLR. Do I want/need a 5D3?




  
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Apr 25, 2013 22:55 |  #2

Sounds like a 6D is right up your alley.

However, without knowing what you shoot and what lenses you have, this is a bit of a shot in the dark...pun intended. ;)


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Apr 25, 2013 22:59 |  #3

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Shooting grandkids' stuff, playing in the park, a day at the beach, birthdays, school sports (hence, the 24-70 II) and some WA & UWA agricultural stuff.




  
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Apr 26, 2013 00:44 as a reply to  @ Tommy1957's post |  #4

It seems like you want the lens more but are being pushed more towards a camera purchase. I have the 5d and like it also, i think it focusses reasonably in dark situations using centre point but only guessing the 6d is better from reading, though the lens may still be better. A lot of pros were happy with the 5d 2 for few years and for the most part the 6d seems to inprove on most aspects so I'd say its a good enought camera for most needs

Tamrons new 24-70 f2.8 seems also worth a look, it could be got with a 6d for there there abouts price of a 5d3


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Apr 26, 2013 00:56 |  #5

In my opinion, the 6D would complement your 60D very nicely... similar control layout and they share memory and batteries. You'll find yourself using the 6D for low light... it's able to do usable images at least a stop higher ISO than the 60D, in RAW. Shoot JPEGs with it and you'll be able to use even higher ISOs.

It's also able to keep focusing one or two EV lower than 60D/5D.


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Apr 26, 2013 01:04 |  #6

Hmmm...sports and kids running around playing usually call for good AF...just sayin'...


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Apr 26, 2013 01:07 |  #7

jaomul: I thought about the Tamron 24-70. I am getting a bit older and easier to confuse. I think the backwards zooming would be hard to get used to. I am getting the 24-70 II for sure.

I am still up in the air about the 6D/5D3. I really don't need either, but hey, we all like new toys now and again. Sometimes I think the 6D is 'enough'. Then I think, "This is my last DSLR, get the 5D3." Still debating.




  
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Apr 26, 2013 01:10 |  #8

The 6D sounds perfect for you.


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Apr 26, 2013 01:24 |  #9

check out the layout of the 60D vs the 6D. The layout is very similiar. I recently had to make the same decision and went from my trusty T3i to a 6D.

I chose the 6D over the 5D because I felt the 6D gave me more options with the "scene" modes. I hope to teach my wife to use the camera and think this will simplify it a bit. so far she has shown no interest.


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Apr 26, 2013 01:25 |  #10

It seems like you want the lens more but are being pushed more towards a camera purchase.

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Apr 26, 2013 01:49 |  #11

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The 6D sounds perfect for you.

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Apr 26, 2013 02:03 |  #12

I would sell the 60D, 5D, 15-85 and the 10-22. I would then get the 5D Mark III and 24-70mm f/2.8L II.

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Apr 26, 2013 02:18 |  #13

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Oh, I am getting the lens. That part is settled. I am kind of leaning toward getting the 6D, also. Just to be clear: 24-70 II, definitely. New body, meh, I don't really need it. THAT would be the icing on the (retirement) cake. I am leaning toward the 6D, mainly because the controls are so similar to my 60D, and it is $1300 cheaper than the 5D3.

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I would sell the 60D, 5D, 15-85 and the 10-22. I would then get the 5D Mark III and 24-70mm f/2.8L II.
Take Care,
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I may end up selling the 5D. I'll get rid of the 60D when Canon makes a better setup for UWA zoom than the 60D and 10-22. And no, IMHO, the 16-35 and any FF body does not measure up. The only thing the 60D/10-22 isn't is f/2.8. I don't think I've ever shot my 10-22 narrower then f/8. Plus the 60D/15-85 without the grip is a nice travel setup. Oh, by the way, I want the 24-70 II for use on the 60D primarily, not the 5D. It will most likely only see ff-duty if I get a 6D/5D3. The 24-70 II on a cropper for indoor sports should be spectacular.




  
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Apr 26, 2013 02:33 |  #14

Tommy1957 wrote in post #15868137 (external link)
Shooting grandkids' stuff, playing in the park, a day at the beach, birthdays, school sports (hence, the 24-70 II) and some WA & UWA agricultural stuff.

The 5D3 would help heaps with tracking kids at the park/beach and sports. Once you miss a shot with the 6D, you'd be thinking damn ! And once you start nailing kids playing and having a blast, you'd quickly forget about the price of the 5D3.




  
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Apr 26, 2013 03:07 |  #15

Tommy1957 wrote in post #15868101 (external link)
The price difference is irrelevant. Size and weight is irrelevant; I still manage a gripped 60D and 100-400L. This will most likely be my last DSLR. Do I want/need a 5D3?

Well if price, size and weight don't matter, why wouldn't you get the 5d3 over the 6d?

The 6d's pro's (ignoring price/size/weight - which you said don't matter to you) are marginally better iso, wifi, gps, quieter shutter, -3ev af on the centre-point.

The 5d3's pro's are its much better AF, build, (stated) shutter-durability, fps, dual-slots, flash-sync speed, 1/8000 shutter speed, better electronic level, better viewfinder/electronic-overlay, better HDR and probably some other things I don't know about!

It doesn't sound like you *need* the 5d3, but overall it is 'better'. Make your choice between the 6D's pros vs the 5d3's and enjoy your purchase either way :)


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