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Canon 60D Users, Unite! (4!)

 
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Apr 30, 2013 18:51 |  #4081

Jan Jasinski wrote in post #15884478 (external link)
It's pretty nice, but because I was using a 6D before that it was definitely much worse than the 6D..
Although, it's still a great body with nice IQ if you don't shoot at high ISO. I only used it for a few shots so I cannot comment too much about it but personally I wouldn't buy it..

So are you like many others considering the 7D to be canons crop king?
It sure seems to be about the best crop body there Is at the moment...

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Apr 30, 2013 18:52 |  #4082

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That Is an excellent combo Jan the 60D with probably the best 70-300 lens period, what did you think of them together, and how do you rate the 60D? I understand Its a bit more compact than the 20/30/40 etc and alot smaller than the 7D.

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I know I was not asked... but I can chime in that for my type of shooting - the 70-300L lives on my 60D 95% of the time.... although not today - I'm still kicking the tires of my new 24-105...

I had the 50D and the 60D of course has the slightly higher resolution (15 vs 18mp) but the 18mp sensor was a breakthrough for Canon and lower noise... the flippity LCD is now a must for likely any future body I purchase. For my hands I found the 50D a little too beefy while the slightly smaller 60D is a much better ergo fit.


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Apr 30, 2013 18:59 |  #4083

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I know I was not asked... but I can chime in that for my type of shooting - the 70-300L lives on my 60D 95% of the time.... although not today - I'm still kicking the tires of my new 24-105...

I had the 50D and the 60D of course has the slightly higher resolution (15 vs 18mp) but the 18mp sensor was a breakthrough for Canon and lower noise... the flippity LCD is now a must for likely any future body I purchase. For my hands I found the 50D a little too beefy while the slightly smaller 60D is a much better ergo fit.

Yeh I know, the 60D does look a good camera and I do like the Idea of the more compact design esp with me coming straight to my 30D off the back of a Canon SX10 Bridge Camera, I have and do still find my 30D abit of a tank, but my concerns have been how mutch of an Improvement I would find with cropping IQ as I often(very often) finf my nifty 250 just Isnt long enough and I crop everything I shoot, so more crop-ability would be great for me.....:D

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Apr 30, 2013 19:52 |  #4084

Pagman wrote in post #15884512 (external link)
So are you like many others considering the 7D to be canons crop king?
It sure seems to be about the best crop body there Is at the moment...

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The 7D is a great body and beats the 60D in terms of IQ, but I wouldn't consider it a crop king. If were talking about crop then the 1DIV wins by all means, it's a 1.3x crop but I suppose it still fits in that category ;) The 7D keeps me away from the poor ISO.

My next purchase is without a doubt a 6D, now that is one hell of a camera and I don't miss the crop factor at all, if something I can crop a lot without losing too much IQ.

Another thing I really disliked about the 60D are the buttons, the delete button is in a horrendous spot imo, the dial feels unresponsive, the buttons are very stiff and the ergonomics aren't great. The 6D actually has a different control dial that I loved and works superbly.

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Apr 30, 2013 20:00 |  #4085

Jan Jasinski wrote in post #15884730 (external link)
The 7D is a great body and beats the 60D in terms of IQ, but I wouldn't consider it a crop king. If were talking about crop then the 1DIV wins by all means, it's a 1.3x crop but I suppose it still fits in that category ;) The 7D keeps me away from the poor ISO.

My next purchase is without a doubt a 6D, now that is one hell of a camera and I don't miss the crop factor at all, if something I can crop a lot without losing too much IQ.

Another thing I really disliked about the 60D are the buttons, the delete button is in a horrendous spot imo, the dial feels unresponsive, the buttons are very stiff and the ergonomics aren't great. The 6D actually has a different control dial that I loved and works superbly.

I guess I mean 1.6 crop factor when I mentioned crop bodies, and staying with 1.6 crop(helps me alot having that 1.6 crop advantage) and I also suppose with us both coming from older versions xsi/30d anything like 60d/7d are worlds appart from our cameras....

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Apr 30, 2013 20:20 |  #4086

Jan Jasinski wrote in post #15884730 (external link)
The 7D is a great body and beats the 60D in terms of IQ, but I wouldn't consider it a crop king.

My understanding is that the sensor of the 60D/7D/T2i/T3i are 'very similar' (not identical) but the 7D sensor has a particular unique banding noise issue (Teamspeed authored a thread on how to shoot the 7D to minimize noise for anyone with the interest to follow-up on this). I've not read any info how the 7D 18mp sensor has better IQ over the 60D's or T2/3i's 18mp sensor but then I don't read everything in print :D


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Apr 30, 2013 21:09 |  #4087

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Yeh I know, the 60D does look a good camera and I do like the Idea of the more compact design esp with me coming straight to my 30D off the back of a Canon SX10 Bridge Camera, I have and do still find my 30D abit of a tank, but my concerns have been how mutch of an Improvement I would find with cropping IQ as I often(very often) finf my nifty 250 just Isnt long enough and I crop everything I shoot, so more crop-ability would be great for me.....:D

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I hear ya... when I wear my 70-300 - I'm 3/4 times shooting subjects far away enough that yeah I have to crop most of my shots too. But - the sharper the lens - paired with a good sensor means you get better IQ on your crops... and of course the lower your ISO is per shot with a good sensor - the lower the noise - and again the better IQ, especially when cropping...

shooting at the lowest ISO while maintaining a fast enough shutter to remove blur has been my focus and it pays off when cropping... that can be applied to any body/lens combo... all the better with a good low noise sensor/AF/lens


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Apr 30, 2013 21:33 |  #4088

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Apr 30, 2013 21:43 |  #4089

Is 640 considered high ISO?
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Apr 30, 2013 21:47 as a reply to  @ The F stops here's post |  #4090

I'd say it largely determined by what body you are shooting with...

ISO 640 when exposed properly with any body released in the last 3 yrs is considered pretty low... unless you majorly cropped the photo, but that can be said about almost any ISO...


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Apr 30, 2013 21:50 |  #4091

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I'd say it largely determined by what body you are shooting with...

ISO 640 when exposed properly with any body released in the last 3 yrs is considered pretty low... unless you majorly cropped the photo, but that can be said about almost any ISO...

Agreed, my shot above is pretty heavily cropped, still a little noise after reduction but i think i can live with it :)


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Apr 30, 2013 22:37 |  #4092

Some really nice HDR shots here! How many clicks did your shutter have before it broke?

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