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Do I need a 85?

 
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May 04, 2013 19:51 |  #16

Stick with the 70-200




  
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May 04, 2013 20:20 |  #17

ROGERWILCO357 wrote in post #15897447 (external link)
85L mk2 rocks and is my first choice along with the 70-200mk2 as my outside portrait lens bet they are even better on the 5D3.

10-4 Roger, unless I want more compression I always start with the 85L, . . in my kit, for years the 70-200 was my go to portriat money-shot machine, . . I rented the 85 a bunch of times as I built other areas of my kit, . . but finaly got one I didn't have to ship back. Sure, for a whole lot less, you can get close with the 1.8 or siggy - but IMO nothing renders like the 85L when you need the look of a fast 85, for me it was worth the wait.

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May 05, 2013 01:17 |  #18

I Bought the 1.8 recently and love it, see the thread for for images and check my Flickr in my sig too.
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May 05, 2013 01:23 |  #19

get the 1.8 for 319 or 329 from slickdeals asap. You can't go wrong and honestly, nobody can justify you spending double or more for the sigma unless you really need that 1.4.


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May 05, 2013 04:18 |  #20

I have Nifty but hardly use it in my 30, 85, and 70-200 line up. I'm actually converting to primes and trying to sell the 70-200 for the 135 probably. Might still get the OS version but we'll see. I do weddings so a zoom is helpful. I love the 30 and the 85 is a nice compliment. The 70-200 has it's uses but more for business than fun.


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May 05, 2013 04:56 |  #21

lyttleviet wrote in post #15898784 (external link)
get the 1.8 for 319 or 329 from slickdeals asap. You can't go wrong and honestly, nobody can justify you spending double or more for the sigma unless you really need that 1.4.

The 1.8 has busy octagonal shaped bokeh starting at about f/2.8. The L and the Sigma have smooth bokeh at all apertures. The 1.8 is also woefully soft wide open compared to the Sigma or the L, and has worse CA. And don't forget the L is one full f/stop faster than the 1.8. That can be the difference between ISO I can live with it and ISO what the F&@#. That being said, no one is going to ever look at a good photo and think, "darn, if only they had used the 85L!" and if you ever need to use ISO what the F&@# just make it bblack and white and add even more grain. VOGUE


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May 05, 2013 05:54 |  #22

smooth3000 wrote in post #15898771 (external link)
I Bought the 1.8 recently and love it, see the thread for for images and check my Flickr in my sig too.
https://photography-on-the.net …read.php?t=1287​825&page=8

Nice sets - you make the 1.8 sing!

With optics, it is remarkable the ratio between: cost and better (or slightly better) IQ.

It is across the board with manufacturers, but nowhere is this more apparent then the 85 offerings from Canon. In the end, It comes down to the shooters mind set - will I be happy with a great instrument, or always be nagged in the back off their mind that there is a tool that offers a little more juice? The equation (such as canons 85's presents) of: 5 times the cost for 15% better performance leaves us gobsmacked!

In your case, you purchused a stellar tool and happily make it sing, . . but for many, the result of this conundrum is to scratch that IQ itch and live on beans for a month (or three), . . Sad for me, I fall into the above mentioned mind-set, . . but I'm lucky in that I like beans. :cool:

All that aside, in response to the OPs question: Do I need an 85" (for portraits)? YES

Another caveat for the OP to consider as he already uses the 70-200 2.8 II, is the experience of Bryan Carnathan from his review at the-digital-picture.com who opines:

“The Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM Lens is relatively inexpensive but yields very good image quality. It is reasonably sharp wide open, but really shines from f/2.8 on.”

“I didn't find myself using the 85 f/1.8 very much after getting the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM Lens. Although 1 1/3 stop slower, I found the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM Lens to be far more versatile.”


My own feeling is if you already have the Big White Machine, the 85 1.8 may not give you as much of a boost in this range to satisfy the prime-al itch. But for $379 (or less used) it wouldn’t be the end of the world to work faster (albeit softer) in this range and have a small, light, unobtrusive tool to change your shooting dynamic when doing portraits.




  
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May 05, 2013 12:44 |  #23

I have the 50L, 85LII, 70-200 II and 200L IS, and still use the 85LII as my go to portrait lens!


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May 05, 2013 14:34 |  #24

You don't need one but if You get one you will love it!


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May 05, 2013 18:16 |  #25

LostArk wrote in post #15898969 (external link)
. . and if you ever need to use ISO what the F&@# just make it black and white and add even more grain. VOGUE

bw!

OMG that's so funny 'cause it's so true!

I've always morphed the quote: (“Patriotism”) Black & White (unless intentional) "is the last resort of a scoundrel" . . been there, done that - pro'lly do it again to "save" poor technique of an irreplaceable moment/image!




  
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May 05, 2013 18:24 |  #26

I would just stick with the 70-200 2.8 :P


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May 06, 2013 19:16 |  #27

Grumpy_one wrote in post #15896956 (external link)
5D MKIII on the way. I currently have a 50 1.4 and a 70-200 2.8 IS, I plan to do portraiture, do I need a 85? Considering the 1.8 or Sigma 1.4. Drooling over the 1.2. I'll probably pull the trigger on a 1.8 and see how it goes, but would like to hear from people that have had or currently have all three lens (50 1.4, 85, 70-200 2.8) and which you prefer for portraiture. Thanks

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May 09, 2013 12:27 as a reply to  @ yalemba's post |  #28

I'll rent an 85, probably a 1.8 (17.00 for a weekend) and check it out against what I have already. If anything, I'd like to upgrade my 70-200 mk I for a mk II, I've been avoiding looking through one or putting one on my camera.


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May 09, 2013 12:38 as a reply to  @ Grumpy_one's post |  #29

my 85 1.8 is much sharper than my 70-200 at the wide end.

great color on it too.


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