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May 07, 2013 13:02 |  #211

Unless Adobe changes their plan back to the option of subscription or one-time purchase/upgrade. I will continue using PS CS6 until I can't with a backup of PS CS (the last I have hardcopy of).
Then I will switch to something else.

I like PS, I really do, but I hate subscriptions a lot. and photoshop is not a NECESSARY subscription.


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May 07, 2013 13:05 |  #212

hollis_f wrote in post #15905926 (external link)
Excellent. So LR + PSE will be cloud-free and perfectly adequate for me.

I'm hoping you're right because I have the same combo. :)


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May 07, 2013 13:12 |  #213

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Is there anything more smarmy and obnoxious than the way these customer service drones always ask if there is anything else they can help you with? As if what came prior immediately wraps things up all nice and tidy to your satisfaction. She was trying awfully hard to sweep you out the door. :rolleyes:

I hate hearing customer service drones repeat this over and over as was done here... particularly when they haven't 'helped' at all in the first place. If you can't help with my first/primary issue, why would you think you could help me with something else?


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May 07, 2013 13:16 |  #214

in my conversation noted above the technician told me Lightroom is also moving to the cloud. Could not get any straight answers so who knows if that is correct or not


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May 07, 2013 13:20 |  #215

alann wrote in post #15907261 (external link)
in my conversation noted above the technician told me Lightroom is also moving to the cloud. Could not get any straight answers so who knows if that is correct or not

They released this on their website. It will be available to CC users but LR5 will be available as boxed and downloadable. Good news at least for users like me that spend 99% of the time in LR and can probably get away with CS6 for the next 5 years until I replace my 5Dmkiii. Will not be subscribing to this BS money grab.


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May 07, 2013 13:24 |  #216

I hope what is on their website is accurate. If so I am in the same boat and will not need to upgrade for a long time


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May 07, 2013 13:44 |  #217

So if you subscribe to the product, the moment you cancel you can't open your .psd files? Didn't Microsoft try that with the Zune where you had a monthly subscription and could download music to the Zune player, but the moment you canceled all the music was gone?


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May 07, 2013 13:47 as a reply to  @ alann's post |  #218

The cost of going to the cloud for Photoshop should be less than the current upgrade choices. I started with v6 and only missed upgrades for CS & CS4. Remember when you used to get a nice printed manual included? Then Adobe changed the upgrade policy to only the previous version instead of three. Now, they want to go completely downloadable, which is fine, but no longer do they have the expense of disc, box, and packaging. Their cost of doing business is decreasing, yet the cost to stay current is increasing. Gee thanks Adobe.


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May 07, 2013 13:49 |  #219

Chet wrote in post #15907366 (external link)
So if you subscribe to the product, the moment you cancel you can't open your .psd files?

Pretty much.




  
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May 07, 2013 13:51 |  #220

Chet wrote in post #15907366 (external link)
So if you subscribe to the product, the moment you cancel you can't open your .psd files? Didn't Microsoft try that with the Zune where you had a monthly subscription and could download music to the Zune player, but the moment you canceled all the music was gone?

dalto wrote in post #15907386 (external link)
Pretty much.

I think Gimp will open a psd file.


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May 07, 2013 13:58 |  #221

I wish for the sake of clarity people would quit referring to the software involved here as being "in the cloud." Calling it "Creative Cloud" doesn't help.

The software is not in the cloud. Unless I have completely misunderstood all this, it is installed on the local computer. The ongoing operation of that software is tied to mechanisms in the cloud. And even then, it seems like it's a periodic thing, where it quietly contacts the Adobe mother ship (monthly?) to allow/authenticate continued use of the product(s) if one's account remains in good standing, rather than something that requires an internet connection to be in place each time you launch it. There is also apparently some cloud storage offered with one's account. The subscriber is entitled to obtain occasional software updates as they become available as part of the subscription.

Ever edit a document or spreadsheet with Google Docs? That's in the cloud, and accessed through a web browser.

Maybe next year they'll offer a truly cloud-based version of ACR and Photoshop. It'll all be done in your web browser! Step one: commit to the low, low monthly price. Step two: prepay for 15 years and get a 1% discount. Step three: upload the 2,000 RAW files from yesterday's wedding. Step four: come back tomorrow to begin culling shots...  :p


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May 07, 2013 14:02 |  #222

drvnbysound wrote in post #15907245 (external link)
I hate hearing customer service drones repeat this over and over as was done here... particularly when they haven't 'helped' at all in the first place. If you can't help with my first/primary issue, why would you think you could help me with something else?

Don't forget how they operate what seems like 25 chats at once, so that what would be a 90-second conversation stretches into 30 minutes while they cycle through responses on the other 24.


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May 07, 2013 14:05 |  #223

alann wrote in post #15907261 (external link)
in my conversation noted above the technician told me Lightroom is also moving to the cloud. Could not get any straight answers so who knows if that is correct or not

Try reading the post I replied to, specifically this link (external link).

So LR5 will be part of the Adobe Cloud package. But it will also be available in the old-fashioned reliable version.


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May 07, 2013 14:06 |  #224

ToddR wrote in post #15907160 (external link)
Is there anything more smarmy and obnoxious than the way these customer service drones always ask if there is anything else they can help you with? As if what came prior immediately wraps things up all nice and tidy to your satisfaction. She was trying awfully hard to sweep you out the door. :rolleyes:

She probably has hourly production quotas, just like the cell phone company reps.


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May 07, 2013 14:14 |  #225

Chet wrote in post #15907366 (external link)
So if you subscribe to the product, the moment you cancel you can't open your .psd files? Didn't Microsoft try that with the Zune where you had a monthly subscription and could download music to the Zune player, but the moment you canceled all the music was gone?

Corel PaintShop Pro opens PSD files.


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