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Another reason WHY Im not getting 600's

 
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May 11, 2013 09:30 |  #1

The AC3 with my pocket wizard plus and Mini triggers....This thing is the bomb. OMG how did i not know about this thing. Pocket wizards sent some product to this seminar i attended and Cliff mautner showed me how to use it......This is soooo much faster than messing around in a flash window or camera screen.

I actually raced the guys that had the 600's.. I was clicking off shots while they were still telling the flashes what to do:lol::lol:

Pocket wizard guys.........Worth every penny.

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May 11, 2013 19:07 |  #2

And FYI: if you buy a Mini TT1 and Flex TT5, you get the AC3 free right now.

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May 11, 2013 23:17 |  #3

I guess that's good to know if speed is the primary goal.

For me, I was tired of dealing with the extra gear - both setup and transport. With regard to my upgrade of flash gear I had 2 primary goals: 1) reduce failure points and additional gear in my bag and 2) be able to control flash power without touching the back of each flash.

There are a few options that offer #2, but the new RT system was really the only choice that addressed #1 for me :confused:

Did you have to do anything special to mitigate issues with the PW gear and your 580EXIIs?


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May 11, 2013 23:25 |  #4

I dropped my PW AC3, mini and flex units and got a St-E3-RT and 4x 600s . I like both systems and won't knock the PW system It was great for me for quite a while. However, There's no looking back once you switch. The 600 units are awesome and rock solid.


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May 11, 2013 23:29 |  #5

I like the set up of the PW and the AC3 does make it easier, but for me I like the 600s myself. So, take a look at my gear list, I've got everything you might be looking for, yet as soon as I posted it on this forum for sale, I got no offers what so ever. And I didn't over price compared to others trying to sell the same equipment.


  
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May 11, 2013 23:55 |  #6

PW's flex are sooooooooooooooo unreliable. I have them and only gained minimal range with my 600ex's and reliability of triggering was pathetic as usual from the flex units.

I have the AC3 and its killer fast in settings but its still piggybacking on unreliable frequency band.

I lend my PW flex units as dummy triggers on strobes. For ETTL function or even Manual dummy triggers for speedlites they cost me over a thousand dollars for truly unreliable triggers.


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May 12, 2013 01:00 |  #7

Interesting. Can't an $80/pair of YN-622c's do the same thing though? They're a lot cheaper than both alternatives.


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May 12, 2013 01:10 |  #8

Aressem wrote in post #15923215 (external link)
Interesting. Can't an $80/pair of YN-622c's do the same thing though? They're a lot cheaper than both alternatives.

Not only cheaper, but the noise from the charging circuit in Canon Flashes, does not cause drama with a 2.4GHz RF signal...At $45 per copy, they have worked fine for my needs.

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May 12, 2013 07:13 |  #9

Those are the reasons I switched. The PW is a good product and helped bring wireless TTL to my bag. However, the misfire/noise issue with 580s, and the inconsistency made me open to switching when the 600s came out. The 600 system on a 5D3 is beautiful. I can control everything from one screen on the camera and it's easy to change what I need. 100% solid and reliable.


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May 12, 2013 07:35 |  #10

Aressem wrote in post #15923215 (external link)
Interesting. Can't an $80/pair of YN-622c's do the same thing though? They're a lot cheaper than both alternatives.

The OP clearly stated he likes not having to fiddle with in-camera menus, which you have to do with the Yongnuos.

If I had the money, the 600s would be my choice solely for the sake of carrying less gear as others have mentioned.


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May 12, 2013 08:04 |  #11

PW Flex/Mini are so unreliable with Canon Flash. Radiopopper PX and the JrX are much better. Much more reliable. Now with the 600 flash, I dont need the PX system or the Flex/Mini. Yes I still have the JrX.


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May 12, 2013 14:53 |  #12

I guess if you'll only ever use 1-3 flash groups and you are lucky enough to not have any RF noise issues and you do not mind the 6 stop flash power adjustment limitation of the AC3 then this may be the right system for you. I have never used the Pocket Wizard TTL system but I did preorder it along with the Radio Popper PX's when they were all first introduced and RP's arrived in my mailbox first so I cancelled the PW's. I loved my RP system but when I switched to the 600EX-RT's I knew I would never be happy piggy backing another Speedlite onto the back of a radio receiver or feeding batteries to all those extra receivers and transmitters ever again. I guess to each their own and if this setup is what floats your boat and makes you happy that is great but it is definitely a system with issues and limitations that some of us would rather not deal with. Not to say that the 600EX-RT's are a perfect solution, far from it but, they do offer better redundancy, more creative and flexible options for controlling up to 5 groups of Speedlites as well as the convenience of not having to deal with separate radio triggers. The speed at which you can make your flash power adjustments is not the only criteria when choosing a system in fact it is rather low on my list.


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May 12, 2013 16:39 |  #13

nice and with the drop in price heck you can almost get the 600’s at the 580ex2’s price under 500 per unit not bad might pop on 2 .


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May 14, 2013 01:26 |  #14

I found the Odins to be much more reliable than the PWs. But as others have mentioned, 600s are just too damn sexy and reliable. I don't think I'll ever go back to third party radio trigger systems.


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May 14, 2013 06:15 |  #15

Only Americans buy the primitive PW.

The rest of the people around the world prefers much better product such as Phottix Odin & Canon 600EX.


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