Hahaha true. But i never said IS is bad, i talked about people whining about wide angle lenses having no is...
And you followed up - in the same thread - with "FACT" and some statements that aren't really true.
And then in your next post noted that you also were of the belief that higher ISO support would basically totally remove the need for IS.
When debating under the assumption that IS and ISO means the same thing (and as CyberDyneSystems notes - "stops" can be deceiving), you will get people to tell you that so isn't the case.
They can sometimes solve the same problem. But in other situations, they will not be even closely able to solve the same problem. So ISO can never replace IS. And IS can never replace ISO.
Ignoring noise, you can still get a huge difference with 4 stops longer shutter time instead of 4 stops higher ISO. Or for stops faster lens compared to 4 stops higher ISO. Test it, and come back and tell what difference you see. And while a tripod is also a good way to allow longer shutter times, you just have to accept that they aren't always practical of even possible to use. So tripods can't magically remove all needs for IS. And that is the case with wide lenses just as well as with tele lenses.
You can always talk for yourself. But you instantly get into issues if you want to be the spoke person for the rest of the people on this forum and tell them what works for them. And that is exactly what you decided to do in this thread.