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May 16, 2013 05:10 |  #1

I have pondered getting 5DIII. I like the cameras I own, they do the things I want well but they are all for different types of shots. I am wondering about getting a 5DIII in the future to use for everything, for instance on a holiday I plan to take in a few months, would a 5DIII be suitable for birds with a 100-400L? Id love to take just one camera but want to be able to photograph the wildlife as well as the landscapes where Im going. I dont see too many shots from 5DIII of birds online, was wondering if it can do it all


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May 16, 2013 06:05 |  #2

aladyforty wrote in post #15937063 (external link)
I have pondered getting 5DIII. I like the cameras I own, they do the things I want well but they are all for different types of shots. I am wondering about getting a 5DIII in the future to use for everything, for instance on a holiday I plan to take in a few months, would a 5DIII be suitable for birds with a 100-400L? Id love to take just one camera but want to be able to photograph the wildlife as well as the landscapes where Im going. I dont see too many shots from 5DIII of birds online, was wondering if it can do it all

You can go to the bird forum and then search for 5D in titles to find quite a few examples of the 5DIII. Although I haven't tried myself, I hear it is great for tracking BIF. Are you considering selling all three of your cameras for it?




  
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May 16, 2013 06:15 |  #3

The 5DIII shares nearly identical AF system with the 1Dx, Canon's flagship camera. It is certainly capable for BIF.


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May 16, 2013 06:18 |  #4

aladyforty wrote in post #15937063 (external link)
I have pondered getting 5DIII. I like the cameras I own, they do the things I want well but they are all for different types of shots. I am wondering about getting a 5DIII in the future to use for everything, for instance on a holiday I plan to take in a few months, would a 5DIII be suitable for birds with a 100-400L? Id love to take just one camera but want to be able to photograph the wildlife as well as the landscapes where Im going. I dont see too many shots from 5DIII of birds online, was wondering if it can do it all

As far as AF goes like darosk else said it is more than capable so that really shouldn't be the question for you IMO. The bigger question is if you used your current 5d II for birds would you be happy with the resolution of the images after you cropped them when using your 100-400? If the answer is yes then the 5d III could by your all-in-one camera.

If not then it is a more difficult question. You can always add a 1.4xTC and the 5d III will AF but again you have to see if you'd be happy with the results.


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May 16, 2013 07:42 |  #5

For BIF, you can look at the crop sensor cameras as a 1.6X converter with no f-stop penalty... A 60D costs as much too... :D


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May 16, 2013 08:04 |  #6

As long as you can live without the added "reach" of a 1.6x crop sensor for the types of bird you shoot, then the 5D3 can work well. It's AF system is terrific for birds in flight. Personally, I have kept my 7D for those times I need that added reach with the 100-400L for wildlife, but the 5D3 is stellar when the subject is close enough.

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May 16, 2013 08:05 |  #7

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May 16, 2013 08:06 |  #8

MakisM1 wrote in post #15937302 (external link)
For BIF, you can look at the crop sensor cameras as a 1.6X converter with no f-stop penalty... A 60D costs as much too... :D

I have a 7D I use for birding. and a 1DIII although cant crop too much. I have no plans of getting rid of the crop camera, I would just like to have a camera I can take away on a trip thats going to give me great quality landscapes and pretty good wildlife


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May 16, 2013 08:11 |  #9

aladyforty wrote in post #15937349 (external link)
I have a 7D I use for birding. and a 1DIII although cant crop too much. I have no plans of getting rid of the crop camera, I would just like to have a camera I can take away on a trip thats going to give me great quality landscapes and pretty good wildlife

Ι figured out as much!... I think 7D+5DIII combo is the sweet spot (for non 1D customers...).:D


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May 16, 2013 08:51 as a reply to  @ MakisM1's post |  #10

I use a 5DIII with a 1.4 converter with a 500 F4 and my 7D ready to go with the 100-400 on it when birding. Great combination. Even though the 100-400 will now AF on the 5DIII with a 1.4, it loses too much sharpness and AF speed for me.


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May 16, 2013 13:40 |  #11

Yeah, the only thing the 5DIII really can't touch is the reach you can get with 18mp 1.6 crop sensors so with small birds and only 400mm your 7D would kick it's butt(since it would likely require heavy cropping). Now this is a short coming of FF vs 1.6 crop(depending on MP of each). I don't even use my 40D anymore now that I had the 5DIII, it's 10mp 1.6 crop adds nothing to the table except for .5fps. About the same could be said about the 1D 1.3 crops, the 1DIV's 16mp only gives similar pixel density, but the 1d's do bring other things to the table like 10FPS, more custom settings, better build, etc.

The 5DIII truelly is a do all, sure there's other bodies that are better for some things but it's one of the few bodies that can good-great for just about everything or fit into the if you could only have 1 body.




  
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May 16, 2013 15:02 |  #12

I did a very unscientific comparison using my 5DIII and 100-400 with and without the 1.4 III teleconverter and I can find very little difference in sharpnes. It won't auto-focus as fast, but overall I'm extremely pleased with the combo.


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May 16, 2013 15:52 as a reply to  @ James P's post |  #13

5D3 is an amazing camera, stellar AF, moderate FPS (depending on your needs).
Recently started shooting more sports, and sometimes find the 6 fps adequate but sometimes I wished for 8 or 10fps to capture "the moment", but for BIF I find it fps wise fine, tracking is great. Find myself cropping a lot when shooting sports and I like the results ,depends on how much you crop sometimes 50% or more.
If you find no use for your 5D2 sell it and get the Mark III, mine lasted till 200K shots, sold it and bought the version 3 never looked back.


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May 16, 2013 16:05 |  #14

It is for this precise reason that I am considering the dark side and the D800. From 36.6M pixels, I can crop to 1.6X and still have 14.3M pixels on the subject. Or I will wait to see what Canon's megapixel camera is going to look at. Canonrumors said there's going to be an announcement in September or October! :D


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May 16, 2013 16:09 |  #15

Scrumhalf wrote in post #15938731 (external link)
It is for this precise reason that I am considering the dark side and the D800. From 36.6M pixels, I can crop to 1.6X and still have 14.3M pixels on the subject. Or I will wait to see what Canon's megapixel camera is going to look at. Canonrumors said there's going to be an announcement in September or October! :D

True, but then again think about all the processing that would have to take place on 36.6+ MB raw image files. But then again if you've got the horsepower in your computer, then I definitely could see the advantage of that. :) However 36.6 MP still means that each pixel on the FF sensor is physically smaller so in a way you'd get a cropped image with higher MP, but with slightly more noise. Just my opinion, nothing personal.


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