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Bottleneck from 135f2l on t3i?

 
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May 20, 2013 08:33 |  #31

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While I own a 135L and think it's a fantastic lens, I'm not sure it's the best way to spend your money right now, based on what you say you shoot and you only currently owning the 18-135mm lens. A more versatile lens would be a telephoto zoom -- either one of the 70-200mm's, the 70-300L or 100-400L, depending on what is more important to you -- reach, speed or size/weight.

I don't mind the weight - ive useed a friend's 6d with a 24-70 mk ii on saturday, and i know the 70-200 2.8 ii is alot heavier, but the setup wasn't really heavy. In fact, I feel that my t3i is too light.
In terms of reach - I don't want to get too much overlap from 70-200, but I guess the 135-200 will be a nice addition to my setup.
speed - obviously I want to get the fastest glass, but my budget is pretty tight.
I know that the 70-200 ii will be the best choice but getting the money for it means that I need to save for another year or two... I can't wait that long :cry:


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May 20, 2013 08:43 |  #32

Romax12 wrote in post #15946786 (external link)
gasrocks, FIY, im not a super reach guy who is looking to spend money on useless things he doesn't even like - i'm considering all of my options, and look at every singel lens and camera reviews out there, and saving money since last year - because im 16. As I said, money doesn't grow on trees and I don't want to get the wrong decision when talking about 1k in dollars.
I feel that my current equipment limits my photography, and I want to go one step ahead.
I like shooting family and friends, from the waist-above-head style. I also like take pictures of my dog running and landscapes and wildlife.
I also considered the 100-400, beacuse we are planning a trip to tanzania next april (nothing's certain though). So im in the boat for my next purchase.


To be honest; I think a 135L would be a bit of a waste for you. For not much more, you could get 70-200 f/4 IS which would give you much more flexibility; especially for the dog. If the money puts that over the edge; you could halve your budget with the non IS; and likely be just as happy with it (As you are considering 135L without IS; though it's speed advantage would help)


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May 20, 2013 08:53 |  #33

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To be honest; I think a 135L would be a bit of a waste for you. For not much more, you could get 70-200 f/4 IS which would give you much more flexibility; especially for the dog. If the money puts that over the edge; you could halve your budget with the non IS; and likely be just as happy with it (As you are considering 135L without IS; though it's speed advantage would help)

yeah i know, the 70-200 f4 non-is is 2 stops slower, and thats what putting me back.
I did considered the is version, but again, 2 stops of less light...


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May 20, 2013 09:30 |  #34

if you want a fast aperture look at the sigma 70-200mm f2.8 OS lens...it's right in the same range as the f4IS


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May 20, 2013 10:05 |  #35

I'm thinking sigma 70-200 OS or 50-150 OS, the latter being crop specific, might do well for you. While I have seen beautiful things come from the 135L, you may benefit more from a zoom at this point. I've considered the 135L, both before and after buying my 70-200 MKII, but the versatility of the zoom is more beneficial to me at this point. I use it on a T3i, but also on a 5D occasionally.

Try setting your 18-135 @ 135 and leave it there for a while. See if you like the way your images are framed and if you can live with a fixed focal length.




  
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May 20, 2013 10:17 |  #36

OP - if you are not sure you need to buy a 1000$ lens - don't. You have to gain more experience and skills to realise this lens will be worth every $ you spent on it (or won't - depending which direction your photography hobby will evolve).

I got this lens when I still had XS body, and I enjoyed it, because I knew exactly what I wanted - nice and sharp lens producing the strongest and most pleasing background blur for outdoor portrais you can get for under one grand. To get there, I experimented first by buying MF lenses - 135mm f3.5, then Samyang 85mm f1.4, until I realised I needed both nice bokeh and fast and accurate AF. 135L gave me all that, and more.


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May 20, 2013 10:42 |  #37

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Hello guys.

Is it true? Do I really need to get a full frame body to get the max out of the lens?

Yes>>>BUT it's still produces the creamy backgrounds that you're looking for. However just know that you will need a lot of room to stand back to get those "head to waist" photos that you want.

You can always rent and try it out before you drop a grand. IMO if you can afford L glass it's always a great investment. IMO the differences between L glass and regular glass is night and day.


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May 20, 2013 10:43 |  #38

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Yes i own the 18-135 IS STM too. It has a good IQ no matter what, but it lacks the aperture. Id wish it has a fixed aperture of 2,8 or 4...

And the cost would double even triple.

As a do most things lens it's a beauty but I would attempt any of my street candids in dark dim places as I do with my fast primes.


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May 20, 2013 10:49 |  #39

IMHO, you would be spending money duplicating functionality in your kit. There's nothing wrong with the IQ of a t3i and a 18-135 STM. It's a very solid lens, and versatile.

The question is what do you want? A longer lens? A EF-S 55-250 F/4-5.6 (300$) will double your reach. A faster lens? Buy a 50mm 1.4 to play around with (350$). Hell, buy both and still be well under the cost of a 135L! There's nothing wrong with the 135L, but I don't think it's the answer to your problem.

From your posts is sounds like you want something with more reach and something that you can destroy backgrounds with. The above will give you both, just not at the same time.




  
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May 20, 2013 11:12 as a reply to  @ vengence's post |  #40

Sheesh, kid problems nowadays. 135L or not...

Just kidding. If you've been shooting and have the cash, and know it's the right focal length for you, I would jump on the 135L without hesitation as the lens will be there when you go FF. This is why most of the advice given here says to get the lens upgrade first.

My gateway drug of choice into the L arean was the 70-200mm F4 (non-IS) with my T1i. I was simply blown away with the sharpness and picture clarity upgrade from the standard kit lens and even the nifty. Once I got the cheap L, I upgraded to the 70-200 2.8II within a year and the scale kept on climbing. Although there are tons of posts about whether to get a 135L and mkII, I'm still debating it. From all the pictures on this site, my favorites are from the 135L and the ZE 100 but the mkII is so useable in many situations.

If you want to bokeh, you'll be hard pressed to find a lens better than the 135L, regardless of crop/ff.




  
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May 20, 2013 12:08 |  #41

Forget 135L, way top long on crop, you won't use it, but I rebought it back on fullframe next to my 70-200 II, it's that good ;-)a


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May 20, 2013 12:12 |  #42

Romax12 wrote in post #15949206 (external link)
yeah i know, the 70-200 f4 non-is is 2 stops slower, and thats what putting me back.
I did considered the is version, but again, 2 stops of less light...

look at the positive...two f/stops faster means less DOF, and much more difficulty at times in trying to keep a moving dog in focus!


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May 20, 2013 14:22 |  #43

Wilt wrote in post #15949867 (external link)
look at the positive...two f/stops faster means less DOF, and much more difficulty at times in trying to keep a moving dog in focus!

than I can just use my 18-135.
the whole point is to practice and getting the shot, isn't it?


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May 20, 2013 14:54 |  #44

Romax12 wrote in post #15950279 (external link)
than I can just use my 18-135.
the whole point is to practice and getting the shot, isn't it?

The point is to take a good picture, no one really cares looking at it how you got there... ;)

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May 20, 2013 16:12 |  #45

Get the 135l and pick up a 50 f/1.8 for around $100. You will most likely be obsessed with primes afterward and wonder how you ever got along without.


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