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May 21, 2013 14:23 |  #7786

So we are doing some fencing around the perimeter of the house, and i used to think that people you would see on Holmes vs. Homes were suckers, or just didn't do their homework...

Now that i'm dealing with these contractors, i can clearly see, it's not just them. Contractors, particularly Fence contractors are all shady as ****. None of them deliver a quote on time, they give vague references about what and when they can deliver and the ones on Angieslist look like they wrote their own reviews...

Totally shady man. I'm about to build my own g-damn fence. This is ridiculous. It's like picking the least evil of the bunch is the name of the game. And you don't know the level of evil of that last one either...

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May 21, 2013 14:35 |  #7787

Angie's List? Do you have a long time fence supply/builder, not just someone with a truck? Perhaps Home depot or Lowes? You get what you pay for.


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May 21, 2013 14:41 |  #7788

Home Depot/Lowes sells the cheaper stuff. We are looking for Vinyl Fence. Particularly Kroy products. They have .25 thickness. HD/Lowes has thinner walls.

Angieslist.com is like a contractor review site, popular around these parts. They 'claim' to have unmolested reviews, but i find it hard to believe reading some of these...

We went to 4 different fence suppliers in our area, not guys with trucks. Businesses with the appearance of reputability. But alas... they all seem rather incompetent.




  
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May 21, 2013 14:48 |  #7789

Angie's list is a pile of ****. unless the job is "big", they aren't interested, and they have inflated prices now.


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May 21, 2013 14:51 |  #7790

yeah, Angie's list is such a good concept.. pay money to review stuff for other people, who also pay money, but may not review stuff. Can't see anything wrong with this model.. Hell, I think I get recommendations from Angie's List as a photographer, that ought to tell you something!


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May 21, 2013 14:58 |  #7791

You may have to refer to You Tube How-to videos, a good pair of gloves, large bottle of the magic blue pills ( Aleve :) ) and a bottle of liniment. A few good friends and a BBQ may be in order too. Good luck.


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May 21, 2013 15:13 |  #7792

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You may have to refer to You Tube How-to videos, a good pair of gloves, large bottle of the magic blue pills ( Aleve :) ) and a bottle of liniment. A few good friends and a BBQ may be in order too. Good luck.

I offered before - count me in. I love a good barbecue.


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May 21, 2013 16:06 |  #7793

Plenty of severe storms and some tornados in New England. Play it safe fellas.


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May 21, 2013 16:17 |  #7794

Grew up and lived in Iowa for 23 years, and went through my fair share of tornado scares. One ripped through my college campus in Iowa City (even went across the river) Easter weekend of my freshman year. Had some crazy rain Sunday and yesterday, high winds, didn't see anything related to tornadoes this time around. Heart aches for those in OK.


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May 21, 2013 19:39 |  #7795

Was a interesting day out on the islands.

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May 21, 2013 20:21 |  #7796

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Hello, sir!

That is a nice pic of the island as well!


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May 21, 2013 20:40 |  #7797

Harm wrote in post #15951562 (external link)
What an utter load of rubbish. Clearly you don't work in the global field of the power industry. My projects range from in Chile through to Sudan/Nigeria, Trinidad, Europe, Middle East, the US, Australia etc. all is the same. Solar/wind is too expensive and unreliable. Not everyone gets the US subsidies. Other countries have a much better push on renewables but it is expensive. When I do lenders engineering work for a bank, they won't lend money if you do not make a return on investment.

im an investor, and i dont have to work in any particular sector to know how the money is spent, i have press releases on my desktop pertaining to global fossil fuel subsidies. 630 billion dollars worth of petrolium is subsidized in emerging markets (developing countries) YOY since 2008. globally, when you include the US, nearly 1 trillion dollars (probably more) will be subsidized this year 2013 globally. i dont think it's any wonder why petrolium technology is so advanced, is getting more advanced, and no other technology is allowed to take hold because simply put, they are outspent.

but i digress...this is a photo forum. we can agree to disagree, but please realize that technology is driven by r&d, and r&d comes from investment. nobody is investing in solar because its too expensive, because it's costs are minimally subsidized by the most monetarily wealthy institutions on earth, large 1st world governments. the technology developed in heavily subsidized areas of the world, will in short order, make it's way to other areas of the world, thereby benefiting those markets indirectly via the subsidies that make that technology possible.




  
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May 21, 2013 20:51 |  #7798

symbolphoto wrote in post #15953834 (external link)
Home Depot/Lowes sells the cheaper stuff. We are looking for Vinyl Fence. Particularly Kroy products. They have .25 thickness. HD/Lowes has thinner walls.

Angieslist.com is like a contractor review site, popular around these parts. They 'claim' to have unmolested reviews, but i find it hard to believe reading some of these...

We went to 4 different fence suppliers in our area, not guys with trucks. Businesses with the appearance of reputability. But alas... they all seem rather incompetent.

kroy is sold under the same name. from the cheap crap to the more expensive thicker walled stuff. i like the digger specialties stuff because it is framed in aluminum, with heavy duty aluminum brackets. the posts are basically a vinyl shell over an aluminum post. you should be estimating about 2x the price for vinyl as wood. if someone is telling you equal quotes for wood and vinyl, run for the hills, even if they say they're installing kroy. kroy's cheap stuff, once again, is sold under the exact same name. be careful. check with bbb.org before hiring anyone.

i used to work for a fence company...most of our jobs were repairing broken/sagging fence panels from big box store customers.




  
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May 21, 2013 20:53 |  #7799

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I was saying to my wife earlier that we never have to worry about that here, but then i remembered what happened out in western Ma 2 years ago.

Never say never.

That hit my hometown.


If I lived in Moore I'd be looking to live elsewhere.


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May 21, 2013 21:09 |  #7800

t3ichef wrote in post #15954903 (external link)
kroy is sold under the same name. from the cheap crap to the more expensive thicker walled stuff. i like the digger specialties stuff because it is framed in aluminum, with heavy duty aluminum brackets. the posts are basically a vinyl shell over an aluminum post. you should be estimating about 2x the price for vinyl as wood. if someone is telling you equal quotes for wood and vinyl, run for the hills, even if they say they're installing kroy. kroy's cheap stuff, once again, is sold under the exact same name. be careful. check with bbb.org before hiring anyone.

i used to work for a fence company...most of our jobs were repairing broken/sagging fence panels from big box store customers.

They don't make aluminum privacy fence. Just picket stuff.




  
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