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canon 70-300 - 100-400 OR sigma 50-500 - 150-500 ?????

 
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May 21, 2013 18:19 |  #1

looking for a circa $1500 lens for my longer distance shooting with my 5d3.

so far my options are

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 L IS
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS
Sigma 50-500mm f/4.5-6.3 APO DG OS HSM
Sigma 150-500mm f/5-6.3 DG OS HSM APO

Primarily birds in my back yard, kids running around or trips to the zoo.

Im sure there might have been some reviews here or those who have tried a few of these.

let me know what you guys think.

Thanks.

:edit: would a 70-200mm 2.8 is II with a converter be an option comparable to these?


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May 21, 2013 19:19 |  #2

i like my 150-500OS...but I didn't have $1500 to spend...it's a good buget lens, but if you have more funds, and are willing to pay the difference than the 100-400L is probably the way to go...I value reach to much to go for a 70-300L...the 50-500OS is also supposed to be a good option that many like, I would imagine the range would be good for kids in the backyard if you've got a big backyard


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May 21, 2013 19:49 |  #3

I'd lean towards the 70-300 over the 100-400 for the extra two stops of IS & IQ. Trips to the Zoo & Kids probably won't miss the extra reach over the extra IS and IQ.




  
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May 21, 2013 23:28 |  #4

I changed from a l00-400 to the 70-300 L. Could not be happier. However, I don't short many birds anymore.


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May 22, 2013 02:58 |  #5

The 50-500 OS was the first lens that I had,

The image quality was quite nice and I had taken many pictures I liked during a trip.
However after 2 weeks of usage there was a significant amount of dust in the lens, even tho i had treated it with quite some care.

I don't know how other lenses fare in this aspect , and if you live in a 'dusty' area but it is something to take into consideration

Also i used the lens on a crop body and not full frame, I am pretty sure the 70-300 / 100-400 perform better in the full frame corners than the sigmas.

Other than that the sigma has significant focus breathing, and numerous comparisons showed that up-scaling an image taken with the 100-400 to match the sigmas fov showed similar/better image quality.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=5​&APIComp=2 (external link)

There is an comparison between the 70-300 with 1.4 conveter(which now autofocusses on your 5d) and the 150-500.

Unless you really really need the reach , I would go for the 70-300, otherwise the 100-400(which can also be used with 1.4 converter if you really need the reach)

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=5​&APIComp=0 (external link)

They are quite comparable @ 300mm


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May 22, 2013 03:44 |  #6

I couldn't really see needing 500mm to capture birds in your backyard, yet alone to use at the zoo or taking pics of the kids running around. Then again, I don't know the size of your backyard, mine is quite small and i can make do with a 70-200 on my 1d3. Not to mention the fact the 150-500 and 50-500 are quite heavy and bulky. IMO the 70-300L would make a fantastic walk around tele and great for your requirements. The 100-400 would probably be better if you were wanting to take lots of pictures of birds (backyard or not) and other various wildlife (not at the zoo). From the information you have provided, I would go with the 70-300L. A 70-200 f2.8 II with a 1.4x is still very good, but 2x (from what i've read and you're much better off with the 100-400 etc). I would only be looking at it if you know you will be taking lots of photos in low light/indoors.


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May 22, 2013 05:18 |  #7

It all depends on your priorities. All the lenses mentioned could do well for the uses you listed. I really recommend the 70-300L for his smaller size, newer IS and excellent image quality. If your priority is the kids with occasional bird shots or zoo trips, you should consider the 70-200/2.8 IS II and a 2x III TC. There is a small loss of IQ with the TC, but it is very useable. You will also have a f/2.8 that could provide background separation for portraits or enable indoor shooting at school events, etc. But this setup is well above your stated budget.


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May 22, 2013 07:15 as a reply to  @ sebr's post |  #8

I went in to purchase a 100-400 at my local store. The clerk advised I should look at the 70-300 as its newer tech. I folded, bought the lens and regretted it.

Id go 100-400 - as it works with the converters and longer focal length.


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May 22, 2013 22:23 as a reply to  @ Frogtastic's post |  #9

I have a 7D and a 5D III. I also have the 70-300L and the Sig 150-500. I did a test shoot in my backyard today with all combinations, including the 1.4III and 2x III TC's with the 70-300l. I used a tripod and set up a stuffed animal about 30 feet away. I varied the camera settings, to cover any "sweet spots" each combo may have. I rated the photos with looking at the EXIF. I wanted to truly find the right combo to take with me this weekend as my 600L won't fit on the airplane with me.
I narrowed it down to the best 14 photos out of more than 100.The 7D shot 4 of them the 5DIII had the other 10. 2 of the 7D shot were with the 70-300L the rest of the 12 were all Sig. I was very surprised. I think the 70-300 might have done better at a closer distance......but that is for another day.
I shoot mostly birds, and even in your backyard, reach is king. You need to fill the frame with the subject.
photo #1 is the 7D 70-300L #2 is the 5DIII sig 150-500.


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May 23, 2013 14:14 |  #10

Thanks guys for the tips and comparison.


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May 23, 2013 16:15 as a reply to  @ Doc Fluty's post |  #11

100-400 won't autofocus with the 1.4x canon converter I have - or is there a new converter it will with?


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May 23, 2013 17:21 as a reply to  @ hania's post |  #12

For me the 70-300L is too short for most wildlife. For kids and the zoo it probably work most of the time. It was not in my list so never I never really looked into it.

Both of the Sigmas have better stabilization than Canon 100-400L. I like my Sigma's (150-500mm) IQ seems very close to identical to the Canon. I also like the extra 100mm at the long end. I am happy with my choice, I doubt I'd change except for a prime.

One thing to consider is that the Canon 100-400L is a little shorter (but a tiny bit fatter) than a Canon 70-200L (IS f/2.8). My Sigma is significantly (2 plus inches) longer than the Canon. Finding a bag for the Canon is relatively easy, the Sigma 150-500mm is a hard fit sometimes. If I were to switch, it would be because of this. As I would probably take the Canon more often since it would fit any of my bags and the Sigma does not.


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May 23, 2013 22:15 |  #13

In terms of IQ, I believe the 70-300L is the best of the lot, simply because its based on the latest optical technology and IS. I've used this for the past couple of years and have been very pleased with sharpest and IS. I've used (borrowed) the 100-400L. It's OK, but not up to the standards of 70-300L and it's quite a beast handling-wise. I've used this quite a bit for my son's baseball but now since he's moved on I''ll move on from this lens, too.

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https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1302016


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May 24, 2013 05:56 |  #14

hania wrote in post #15960877 (external link)
100-400 won't autofocus with the 1.4x canon converter I have - or is there a new converter it will with?

It's your camera that determines AF behaviour with a TC. The 1D series and the 5DIII will AF. Anything else won't.

There are ways to fool the camera into working with the 100-400 + 1.4x TC - but only for certain values of 'working'.

chantu wrote in post #15961822 (external link)
In terms of IQ, I believe the 70-300L is the best of the lot

Not from 300-400mm it ain't.


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May 24, 2013 09:06 |  #15

hollis_f wrote in post #15962439 (external link)
Not from 300-400mm it ain't.

Hmm, by this logic, then the Siggy's are best from 400-500mm. :rolleyes:


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