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May 27, 2013 22:00 |  #1

I'm meeting with potential/likely clients tomorrow but they initially asked about me for about 3:30-5 - only 1.5 hours!

This would actually be my very first wedding... and that timing seems awfully short! I'll confirm with them the schedule/how the day will play out and maybe there is photo opportunities earlier/later.. but otherwise, it seems incredibly short to try and cram a bunch of things in?

Seems like it would be a rush to cover their actual event unfold, but leaves no time for getting ready, formal shots, etc. etc..?


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May 27, 2013 22:17 |  #2

Yes, absolutely. An established wedding photographer would probably never do something that short, unless it paid well. I would expect no more than 100 images. Have they mentioned their budget? Or will that be discussed tomorrow? Just be prepared with how low you're willing to go and you don't necessarily have to provide a quote right there and then. And bundle all services in the same quote. Maybe negotiate more time for a price, if you feel their needs are not possible to cover in said time frame.


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May 27, 2013 22:19 as a reply to  @ juicedownload's post |  #3

Sounds like they just want the ceremony and some formal pictures afterwards.


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May 28, 2013 01:01 |  #4

Yeah, this is almost certainly pre-ceremony at the church, brides arrival, ceremony, post ceremony formals.

I am confused however as to why any professional would refuse to provide the level of service that a client wanted.


  
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May 28, 2013 01:06 |  #5

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Yeah, this is almost certainly pre-ceremony at the church, brides arrival, ceremony, post ceremony formals.

I am confused however as to why any professional would refuse to provide the level of service that a client wanted.

Too short location jobs means lots of travel time, setup time etc in relation to the total income from the job. While at the same time, it is likely that they don't want to pay too much either. So the total profit from the job might be very low compared to if a professional have other jobs available.


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May 28, 2013 01:09 |  #6

Nightstalker wrote in post #15974376 (external link)
I am confused however as to why any professional would refuse to provide the level of service that a client wanted.

Because in a busy wedding season this takes a prime day out of the running where you could have a full day booking. As most weddings tend to be on the weekends (mainly Saturdays) and be seasonal there are only realistically only so many possible bookings per year.

I have a 5 hour coverage package however I'll only take on a few of these a year. It is also unlikely that I'll take them for the height of the wedding season.

Personally I wouldn't consider a very short coverage wedding unless it was at short notice and I had nothing else on that day.


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May 28, 2013 06:28 |  #7

Could also be a civil wedding i.e. not in a church, and these ceremonies usually only take 15 - 20 minutes, well here they do :)


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May 28, 2013 10:10 |  #8

Yes, this can be common with 2nd marriages, couples with a small budget etc. and we cater to those people. They are happy to find a photographer that doesn't have a 4 hour miniumum (for example) and doesn't necessarily want or need all the bells and whistles (fancy album, 500 proofs, etc.)




  
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May 28, 2013 10:43 |  #9

kaitlyn2004 wrote in post #15973978 (external link)
I'm meeting with potential/likely clients tomorrow but they initially asked about me for about 3:30-5 - only 1.5 hours!

This would actually be my very first wedding... and that timing seems awfully short! I'll confirm with them the schedule/how the day will play out and maybe there is photo opportunities earlier/later.. but otherwise, it seems incredibly short to try and cram a bunch of things in?

Seems like it would be a rush to cover their actual event unfold, but leaves no time for getting ready, formal shots, etc. etc..?

The only thing I'd add to the previous comments is that you might need (or want) to add your travel and setup time to the quote.


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May 28, 2013 12:25 as a reply to  @ archer1960's post |  #10

I typically try to let the client determine what a successful shoot is. If it's 1.5 hours and it fits in with your scheduling and pricing, then why not?

No point in coming up with a set of images that would take you 3 hours to accomplish if the timeframe on their end doesn't allow for that. Adjust your expectations/shot list accordingly, imo.


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May 28, 2013 13:13 as a reply to  @ Foodguy's post |  #11

1.5 hours is fine, but I would keep a strict timeline... otherwise it will turn into, "can you show up a little bit early to get a few shots of me getting ready??" And then, the day of, you receive a text or phone call at 11:00... "Where are you?"

Setting expectations with them a head of time is huge. You might even highlight what is possible and not possible in such a short amount of time.


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May 28, 2013 13:53 |  #12

memoriesoftomorrow wrote in post #15974399 (external link)
Because in a busy wedding season this takes a prime day out of the running where you could have a full day booking. As most weddings tend to be on the weekends (mainly Saturdays) and be seasonal there are only realistically only so many possible bookings per year.

I have a 5 hour coverage package however I'll only take on a few of these a year. It is also unlikely that I'll take them for the height of the wedding season.

Personally I wouldn't consider a very short coverage wedding unless it was at short notice and I had nothing else on that day.


I do understand that better paying jobs have to take priority - this is a given - I have to juggle the same stuff myself on a regular basis.

I read the original post slightly differently, in that, a professional would not want to be involved in such a short booking for creative reasons.

In my defense it was 7am and I was just on my way out to my 1st job of the day having got up at 6am - I claim being barely awake as the excuse for my stupidity.


  
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May 28, 2013 14:03 |  #13

My third ever wedding was a shorty so I did my job for the span I was hired and then played around with techniques & equipment on my own for a bit after. It's not often you can do that in a live situation.

Just because you're paid for short doesn't mean it doesn't have to be worthwhile. OP is new after all. Just make sure the contract is specific about when you're on their dime and when you're not, what images they get and what images they do not.


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May 28, 2013 14:11 |  #14

I got re-married in maui back in march. The fellow who covered our very short ceremony on the beach was a real pro, and we couldn't be happier with his work.

his original coverage was for an hour, and we ended up keeping him busy and engaged on the beach for more like 2... he had no complaints, as I had no problem committing to purchasing finished images on a CD for a few hundred bucks more over his original price, and we got much more than I had hoped for. :D




  
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May 28, 2013 14:25 |  #15

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I got re-married in maui back in march. The fellow who covered our very short ceremony on the beach was a real pro, and we couldn't be happier with his work.

his original coverage was for an hour, and we ended up keeping him busy and engaged on the beach for more like 2... he had no complaints, as I had no problem committing to purchasing finished images on a CD for a few hundred bucks more over his original price, and we got much more than I had hoped for. :D

That's kind of how I am about watching the clock. I don't pay that close attention to it, but I set the limits in the contract in case the clients are a real bear and I need out. That way staying is always at my discretion.

I won't sprinkle fairy dust and say every client is wonderful and perfect and a fun time. Some..maybe even most..are but certainly not all.


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