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Jun 04, 2013 17:43 |  #1

Kicking this idea around. Just got a 7d and thinking about adding a full frame 6d or exchange the 7d for a 5dmkiii. While I must admit having 2 bodies would be cool I think I would wind up using one body much more than the other and for the same price I could have the 5dmkiii. Opinions welcome.




  
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Jun 04, 2013 17:46 |  #2

I think you have already answered your own ? ;)


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Jun 04, 2013 17:52 |  #3

trx125 wrote in post #16000060 (external link)
I think you have already answered your own ? ;)

You may be right but I hate to give up the reach of the crop body. The burst rate downgrade I can live with.




  
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Jun 04, 2013 17:56 |  #4

If reach is what you need, pic up a used 40 or fifty 50 and keep as a back up. They seem plenty capable and much cheaper also!


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Jun 04, 2013 17:57 |  #5

trx125 wrote in post #16000096 (external link)
If reach is what you need, pic up a used 40 or fifty 50 and keep as a back up. They seem plenty capable and much cheaper also!

Uhhh......what?


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Jun 04, 2013 18:00 |  #6

trx125 wrote in post #16000096 (external link)
If reach is what you need, pic up a used 40 or fifty 50 and keep as a back up. They seem plenty capable and much cheaper also!

If I were to consider that I would just buy a new 60d. For the prices people are getting the 50d on ebay I'd rather get a new 60d. 699.00 is a bargain for that body now.




  
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Jun 04, 2013 18:03 |  #7

Sell the 7d, get the 5dmkIII. If you see you need reach and money is an issue pick up a 50D for less money. If money isn't an issue, keep the 7d, and get the 5dmkIII.


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Jun 04, 2013 18:06 |  #8

60D wasn't a better upgrade for me, I didn't need video. I need better build and ruggedness.


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Jun 04, 2013 22:23 |  #9

I had a 7d and 5dm2 as a pair for 3 years, and they complemented each other pretty well. However, for weddings I would use both bodies and it was a PITA editing because the colors/exposure were a little off from each other- especially custom WB. When I was shooting for myself I would often just use one of the bodies, and felt like I was always giving up something doing so - either the AF/frame rate of the 7 or the image quality of the 5d2.

With the 5d3 there are no compromises; IMO it is the best canon body I've ever shot with and is definitely the best value canon has offered.


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Jun 05, 2013 06:03 |  #10

timbop wrote in post #16000796 (external link)
I had a 7d and 5dm2 as a pair for 3 years, and they complemented each other pretty well. However, for weddings I would use both bodies and it was a PITA editing because the colors/exposure were a little off from each other- especially custom WB. When I was shooting for myself I would often just use one of the bodies, and felt like I was always giving up something doing so - either the AF/frame rate of the 7 or the image quality of the 5d2.

With the 5d3 there are no compromises; IMO it is the best canon body I've ever shot with and is definitely the best value canon has offered.

So you don't feel any compromise with the 5d3 vs the 7d? Other than the reach advantage obviously. From the image samples I've seen the IQ of the 5d3 seems obviously better. Even the 6d threads I've gone through the image samples seem better than the 7d. That's what has really gotten my interested in FF.




  
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Jun 05, 2013 06:11 |  #11

Lucy Brown wrote in post #16000042 (external link)
Kicking this idea around. Just got a 7d and thinking about adding a full frame 6d or exchange the 7d for a 5dmkiii. While I must admit having 2 bodies would be cool I think I would wind up using one body much more than the other and for the same price I could have the 5dmkiii. Opinions welcome.

What do you shoot and what is your current lense set up?




  
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Jun 05, 2013 06:28 |  #12

Lucy Brown wrote in post #16001411 (external link)
So you don't feel any compromise with the 5d3 vs the 7d? Other than the reach advantage obviously. From the image samples I've seen the IQ of the 5d3 seems obviously better. Even the 6d threads I've gone through the image samples seem better than the 7d. That's what has really gotten my interested in FF.

For what I shoot, none at all. I don't really do wildlife, though


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Jun 05, 2013 06:41 |  #13

Lucy Brown wrote in post #16001411 (external link)
So you don't feel any compromise with the 5d3 vs the 7d? Other than the reach advantage obviously. From the image samples I've seen the IQ of the 5d3 seems obviously better. Even the 6d threads I've gone through the image samples seem better than the 7d. That's what has really gotten my interested in FF.

I feel my 100% crops are so much better than 7D but it could be my brain manipulating my thought pattern to justify my costly investment. Damn you skewed judgment!


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Jun 05, 2013 06:46 |  #14

Get a refurb 5dIII from Canon USA store. I ordered one for the wife which has a price of $2799. But, we had a 30 year old Canon AT-1 film body in the closet that I traded in for a extra 15% off. So for a cost of around $2500 her 5dIII will be her Thursday along with a gift bag.




  
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Jun 05, 2013 06:48 |  #15

Lucy Brown wrote in post #16001411 (external link)
So you don't feel any compromise with the 5d3 vs the 7d? Other than the reach advantage obviously. From the image samples I've seen the IQ of the 5d3 seems obviously better. Even the 6d threads I've gone through the image samples seem better than the 7d. That's what has really gotten my interested in FF.

From what I've seen, the difference in images posted to the forum are almost entirely attributable to the differing capabilities of the photographers in question, rather than the camera body they're using. The one exception to that is when a photographer makes really good use of ultra-shallow depth of field. That's generally not something that can be replicated on a crop camera.

Beyond that, you have to see large versions of the shots to really see the image quality differences, or in the case of high-ISO shots, you have to either be examining images of the same scene taken by both cameras or examining batches of them (so as to get a "feel" for the differences).


Don't get me wrong, the image quality of full frame is better than what you'll get from a crop camera, but you have to look really closely to see that unless you're talking about depth of field differences (full frame wins there for wide angle and prime work).


It's funny. I've been shooting crop cameras for a long time (well, since the 30D came out, at any rate), and have a (hopefully) decent understanding of the physical mechanisms behind this stuff, and on that basis, I've been saying the above for quite some time. Then I started shooting full frame and you know what? I haven't changed my views. The one thing I will say about full frame is that it is impressive how easy it is to capture excellent sharpness and detail. With a crop camera, you have to have really good glass (but such glass nowadays is common, so this isn't the problem it used to be). With a full frame camera, well, you basically just need glass! :lol:


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