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24-70... Canon, tamron or sigma???

 
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Jun 06, 2013 17:30 |  #16

Nightdiver13 wrote in post #16006764 (external link)
You're the second person I've seen reference a non-VC 24-70 from Tamron. Can you provide a link to this lens? Because I've never seen it and am getting curious about this.

Tamron 24-70 Non VC (external link) ;)


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Jun 06, 2013 17:35 |  #17

:lol: That was the first thing that came to mind for me too!


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Jun 06, 2013 18:55 |  #18

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If you have the cash to throw at it, get the Canon...hands downI don't own it (I've used it as a rental though), but the 24-70 II is awesome! It's a HUGE chunk of change though. Have you given though to the Tamron 24-70 NON-VC? I will admit though, the VC version feels built like a tank...it's got some weight to it! If you need VC, then you need it...but the non-VC version is nice too (yup, tried that one out for about a week) and still less $$$ than the VC version.

I, on the other hand (being budget minded) after trying out Tamron's 24-70 non-VC, opted for the Tamron 28-75mm and LOVE it! It's a great alternative IMO. I haven't looked back, and the thought of "upgrading" to a 24-70 hasn't even crossed my mind.

Nightdiver13 wrote in post #16006764 (external link)
You're the second person I've seen reference a non-VC 24-70 from Tamron. Can you provide a link to this lens? Because I've never seen it and am getting curious about this.

I am confused. If Tamron does make a 24-70 non-VC, it must be a very tightly held secret. Even Tamron doesn't know about it. The link is to the Sony-mount version of the 24-70 f/2.8 VC lens. The phantom non-VC version is not on Tamron's own web-site, either. I am really curious about how rivas8409 got hold a non-existent lens.




  
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Jun 06, 2013 18:59 |  #19

Tommy1957 wrote in post #16007001 (external link)
I am confused. If Tamron does make a 24-70 non-VC, it must be a very tightly held secret. Even Tamron doesn't know about it. The link is to the Sony-mount version of the 24-70 f/2.8 VC lens. The phantom non-VC version is not on Tamron's own web-site, either.

Unless I'm mistaken, Sony SLT's offer in-body stabilisation, meaning that lenses produced for them don't have IS or VC or OS :)


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Jun 06, 2013 18:59 |  #20

Tommy1957 wrote in post #16007001 (external link)
I am confused. If Tamron does make a 24-70 non-VC, it must be a very tightly held secret. Even Tamron doesn't know about it. The link is to the Sony-mount version of the 24-70 f/2.8 VC lens. The phantom non-VC version is not on Tamron's own web-site, either. I am really curious about how rivas8409 got hold a non-existent lens.

The reason that link was funny is because Sony has in-body stabilization, so naturally the lens is a non-VC lens.


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Jun 06, 2013 19:25 |  #21

And Tamron still sells it for the same price? That sounds like a RIP!




  
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Jun 06, 2013 19:30 |  #22

Tommy1957 wrote in post #16007083 (external link)
And Tamron still sells it for the same price? That sounds like a RIP!

Yeah, that really puzzles me too.


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Jun 06, 2013 21:17 |  #23

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Ok. I own both the Tamron and the Canon. It really depends on what you want. I take a lot of indoor low light photos for social gatherings with my friends and the Tamron is on the body more than the Canon is. The VC is impressive. What are you willing to pay? Diminishing returns.

what i want is already stated in the first post. Wide open sharpness and accurate focus in low light. All the other requirements can be over looked. The lens will be shot almost exclusively wide open. My current lens that i plan to replace is the tamron 17-50 non VC and i have had troubles with focus accuracy and wide open sharpness. Its not nice having a request to print an 8x12 of a portrait thats soft and missed focus which is why im looking for a new lens. I also want to invest in FF lenses as i plan to go FF otherwise i would just get the canon 17-55 f2.8.
The price difference of the canon lens means i would have to wait much longer before i could own it which is a bit of a deterrant


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Jun 06, 2013 22:42 |  #24

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Canon version II.. Hands down best on the market for canon users. Awesome lens.

This ^^^


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Jun 06, 2013 23:54 |  #25

This is a tough call. The Tamron is nearly the equal of the Canon in resolution. The Tamron has a huge degree of barrel distortion at the wide end, vignettes significantly worse. But it is better with CA than the Canon, and it costs about 70% of the Canon. I really don't know which way I'd go, but when it is this close future compatibility has to matter. I think I'd go with the Canon. If the Tamron were cheaper, I could be talked into it. I bought my Sigma 70-200 2.8 OS because I got it for 30% of the Canon II price, used of course. Had it been 70% of the price, I'd have gone with the Canon.

I have recently gotten on the Tamron bandwagon, though. For my purposes, the 17-50 non-VC was a much better deal at $300 than the 17-55 at $1,149. Likewise the 28-75 at $300 versus the Canon II at $2,099. If either of the Tamrons fails to perform, I can sell it (them) for about what I paid for them. So far, both are giving me what I want. Everyone has their own standards, though. Mine may be particularly low wrt these two lenses. What I know is, they are much better at f/2.8 than the 18-55 and 15-85 are. I needed aperture and tired of primes. So far, so good.




  
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Jun 07, 2013 00:27 |  #26

Tommy1957 wrote in post #16007083 (external link)
And Tamron still sells it for the same price? That sounds like a RIP!

Well Sony users are used to high lens prices I guess.


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Jun 07, 2013 06:51 as a reply to  @ Sirrith's post |  #27

I bought my Tamron from an authorized dealer for something like 1130 brand new. It was on eBay and advertised to be an open demo (from some event) with still a full Tamron USA warranty. But I was shipped a brand new never opened lens. I think the dealer sold over a dozen of these from that listing. I wonder whether he was somehow subverting a low price advertising policy from Tamron by claiming they were opened units. The lens is flawless, and I paid grey market price for a USA lens from an authorized dealer. I guess I was lucky.


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Jun 07, 2013 07:19 |  #28

Sold my Canon 24-70 ( first gen ), and bought the Tamron 24-70 VC. I shoot video though and the VC was a noticeable improvement over the Canon for my purposes. I do hate the reverse direction of zoom and focus and the swapped position of said rings in the Tamron though.


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Jun 07, 2013 07:34 as a reply to  @ bkdc's post |  #29

All you have to do is pull the file in to 100% and compare and you have your answers. Also, get in a dark venue, shoot at 8000 at F/2.8 @ 1/50 and see which one is going to lock and which one will hunt.........as mentioned.... no brainer at all......24-70 MKII all the way.

If im spending over 1000.00 for a lens, you can bet im not gonna skimp. The difference b/t the tammy and the canon is $750.00.....For that kind of $$$ you want the very best you can get.......ive shot both lens side by side.... canon all the way

BTW... i didnt buy either. My 24-70 version I is sharp @ f/2.8 and i still prefer a 35L,50L,and 85L.......so we stayed with what we have. My 24-70 Version 1 is now 6 yrs old. I paid $1365.00 for it new and I could probably sell it for $1100.00......But I dont see $900.oo improvement over what i have

If i were going to buy one,,, no doubt in my mind at all.. The canon 24-70 version II is simply outstanding. Its a 10.... the Tammy is an 8......I have not tested the Sigma........the Canon 24-70 debate B/T version one and two gets interesting. I sent my 24-70 version 1 to canon because it fell off the camera and hit the deck,,defective mount,,,canon fixed at no charge but asked me to send in my camera that the lens fell off for inspection....Canon repaired the lens and caibrated it to the camera,,,,,since it was repaired, it was sharper and the af was better than when i bought it new.......so there are a few of that have super sharp 24-70's at F/2.8........not a need to upgrade for me


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Jun 07, 2013 07:37 |  #30

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I bought my Tamron from an authorized dealer for something like 1130 brand new. It was on eBay and advertised to be an open demo (from some event) with still a full Tamron USA warranty. But I was shipped a brand new never opened lens. I think the dealer sold over a dozen of these from that listing. I wonder whether he was somehow subverting a low price advertising policy from Tamron by claiming they were opened units. The lens is flawless, and I paid grey market price for a USA lens from an authorized dealer. I guess I was lucky.

thats the standard price of the tamron in my country. My local store is selling it for $1075. The canon is $2000 so that makes the tamron pretty much 50% of the price.


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