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May 24, 2013 06:30 |  #121

Shooting wrote in post #15960288 (external link)
Or shoot everything in jpeg and keep using the older version of photoshop you have instead of renting for just raw.

I'd be more inclined to shoot in RAW and convert to TIFF with DPP for processing with an older version of PS




  
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May 26, 2013 11:05 |  #122

While I do not condone it, I am one that believes the pirates will always find a way. I'm not a fan of the subscription system.


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May 27, 2013 06:15 |  #123
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May 27, 2013 06:41 |  #124

Cley wrote in post #15971422 (external link)
Adobe is doing it wrong with this new cloud stuff. they've forgot that small business and freelancers also need these products. This is what happen when there are no big competition. I am so disapointed. They should made a regular version as we always knew if they want to keep their products in the cloud

Note that small businesses and freelancers can also make use of the subscription model.

The issue is just that the subscription model isn't always a good model for all users.

A company with 100+ users would often have some rolling update scheme for hardware, while a 1-man operation may suffer a lot if forced to replace the computer (or reinstall with different OS) at the wrong time.

And a 1-man operation may be seasonal - 6 months photography and 6 months something else.

Or maybe take a one-year break from taking new bookings, but still having a need to access data in case an old customer wants to have one more of the already taken photos processed.


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May 27, 2013 15:21 |  #125

pwm2 wrote in post #15971449 (external link)
Note that small businesses and freelancers can also make use of the subscription model.

The issue is just that the subscription model isn't always a good model for all users.

A company with 100+ users would often have some rolling update scheme for hardware, while a 1-man operation may suffer a lot if forced to replace the computer (or reinstall with different OS) at the wrong time.

And a 1-man operation may be seasonal - 6 months photography and 6 months something else.

Or maybe take a one-year break from taking new bookings, but still having a need to access data in case an old customer wants to have one more of the already taken photos processed.

Not meaning to defend the move by Adobe; but in your last case that would actually be cheaper I think in comparison to buying it outright. ('just in case' you can just sign up for a month when you need it; rather than paying for a constant subscription when you may or may not need)


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May 27, 2013 15:50 |  #126

w0m wrote in post #15972842 (external link)
Not meaning to defend the move by Adobe; but in your last case that would actually be cheaper I think in comparison to buying it outright. ('just in case' you can just sign up for a month when you need it; rather than paying for a constant subscription when you may or may not need)

Would be. But might just as well be a need to edit one photo/month. Or one photo every second month.


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May 27, 2013 17:24 |  #127

w0m wrote in post #15972842 (external link)
Not meaning to defend the move by Adobe; but in your last case that would actually be cheaper I think in comparison to buying it outright. ('just in case' you can just sign up for a month when you need it; rather than paying for a constant subscription when you may or may not need)

Even with the higher costing month to month plan you can't really just pay for one month. You get charged for a 6 month time period to prevent that scenario


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May 30, 2013 00:57 |  #128

glad I qualified for the cs6e edu version. that will be more than enough for me for quite some time.


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Jun 02, 2013 08:19 |  #129

Cloud innovation in computer software could soon force school districts and other educational institutions to pay a monthly subscription fee.

Schools are concerned how they'll be affected by Adobe's recent announcement that it no longer will roll out upgrades to its Creative Suite software, including Photoshop, InDesign and Illustrator. High schools and colleges use the software in their photography, communications, design, video, journalism and other creative classes.

Evergreen Public Schools, which had been using the 6-year-old software Adobe Creative Suite 3, recently paid $54,000 to upgrade to Adobe CS6 software for its four comprehensive high schools. The district doesn't have the network to support Cloud technology.

http://www.columbian.c​om …e-casts-cloud-on-budgets/ (external link)

So i'm wondering, what did they get for $54,000. The ability to install all the programs on the set number of computers in their 4 schools, so maybe let's say 300 computers they could install the CS6 on? I now wonder how the price would change on a monthly basis. What if it goes up to $1000-$5000 a month for all those computers?

I'd like to know, for example, what schools are going to do. Let's say you have a computer lab with 50 computers and you need a few adobe programs on all 50 of those programs. As a school, do you pay for one subscription for each of those computers, or 1 subscription for that school and install that on many computers?

If you have to have a subscription for every computer, i could see the price being ridiculous for some schools, especially public schools.

Also let's say i run a business and have 5-7 computers and what to install various adobe programs on them, do i have to buy 1 subscription for each computer, or can i spread out my installs on various computers? Can i install photoshop on my home computer, my laptop and my work computer? Or do i need 3 subscriptions.

edit: I'm just seeing that you can only install CC on 2 computers, and if you want it on more you have to pay for an additional subscription. Absolutely ridiculous. I have a home computer, a work computer, and a laptop. So if i wanted to get photoshop on my laptop and cc master on the 2 desktops it would cost me $70-100 a month? GTFO adobe


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Jun 05, 2013 20:54 |  #130

A petition for adobe:
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Jun 07, 2013 14:18 |  #131

I can't think this will fly. For me Adobe can go @#$@#$ off.
Some of us DESPISE having another monthly payment. IT's a deal breaker.

but let's do the math
$600 one time

$19 monthly x 12= $240 yearly
2.5 years to recoup a one time purchase.

A min of 1 year I assume.


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Jun 10, 2013 06:14 |  #132

Ok, let's moving to GIMP and Darktable...


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Jun 10, 2013 07:03 |  #133

kenstogie wrote in post #16009457 (external link)
I can't think this will fly. For me Adobe can go @#$@#$ off.
Some of us DESPISE having another monthly payment. IT's a deal breaker.

but let's do the math
$600 one time

$19 monthly x 12= $240 yearly
2.5 years to recoup a one time purchase.

A min of 1 year I assume.

But within the 2.5 year period there will be an upgrade to the 600$ package... :confused:


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Jun 11, 2013 12:28 |  #134

I recently bought LR4 and they tried like he!! to get me to go with the cloud stuff. I said no then and am saying no now and tommorow? Yup still it will be no. I don't need anyone else feeding off my teet, thanks. I already have enough of them I can't get rid of.


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Jun 11, 2013 15:31 |  #135

I got LR4 for Christmas & bought a 5D3 yesterday. I'm working off of CS4, & don't like that I can't use Bridge for the Raw images. I'm still very much an amateur with LR, so that's kinda annoying.

I was thinking about buying CS6, just to avoid doing the subscription. If I buy something, I want to own it outright. Maybe that's why I hate using my credit card. I just want to pay for it & be done with it.

I'm going to have to look into it some more, but I was thinking about having my cousin (who is a college student) buy the education version & see if I can get it put on my computer.


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