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2 Questions on the 5DMkIII and 7D

 
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Jun 16, 2013 05:56 |  #1

Q1?
Does the 5DmkIII use the same battery as the 7D -i.e. a Canon LP-E6 Battery Pack - just checking as I need some more, but would hold off if they are different.

Q2?
If one only uses the HD Video setting of :-1080p x 24 fps setting i.e. 1920x1080p will the 5DMkIII have a better resolution than my current 7D or do they both record in 1920 x 1080 pixels!
Interested to know if the actual video resolution is better on the 5DMk III?

I appreciate they say there are many other advantages with the 5DMk III namely better autofocus, metering, faster processors, bigger buffer but would this deliver any improvement in the actual resolution of the video side.
Very interested to hear specifically from a 7D owner who moved to a 5DMkIII.
Appreciate this old walnut, may have been done to death, and apologies; but a paid job might justify getting the 5DMkIII before it.


I am assuming that in stills mode I will see a big improvement from 18 MPS to 21 MPS, and of course the sensor is larger and therefore the photo cell buckets won't be so crowded.


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Jun 16, 2013 06:03 |  #2

Yes, same battery

I don't do video, so not sure sorry


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Jun 16, 2013 06:19 |  #3

Same battery and same resolution on both.


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Jun 16, 2013 09:16 |  #4

Ratjack is correct on both.

I went from a 7D to a 5D III and happy I did. There is no comparison between the quality of the pics between the two bodies as the 5D III is so much better. I was floored with how mach sharper & clearer they were using the same lens. The only thing I miss is having the extra distance with the crop as I shoot a lot of wildlife and sports. At times my 400mm isn't long enough but have learned to make due until I can get a 600mm sometime next year. I wouldn't trade my 5D III for two 7D's.


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Jun 16, 2013 12:43 as a reply to  @ snowblower's post |  #5

Thanks for the replies, much appreciated.
Ordered another battery for the 7D tonight.

Going to do the maths on a 5D Mk III.
Wish there was a Canon cash back for £200 again as that makes it £2100 from calumet - so that would be a goer. in 5 days!


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Jun 16, 2013 12:54 |  #6

snowblower wrote in post #16035745 (external link)
Ratjack is correct on both.

I went from a 7D to a 5D III and happy I did. There is no comparison between the quality of the pics between the two bodies as the 5D III is so much better. I was floored with how mach sharper & clearer they were using the same lens. The only thing I miss is having the extra distance with the crop as I shoot a lot of wildlife and sports. At times my 400mm isn't long enough but have learned to make due until I can get a 600mm sometime next year. I wouldn't trade my 5D III for two 7D's.

Sorry confused if Ratjack is correct, he says the video is identical!
But you say he is correct but that the 5D mk III is so much better?

Do you mean in still terms or video? I assume you mean in stills terms only!
With the video being the same resolution??

Appreciate the "missing crop factor".
As my 7D was only bought last July and has 11,000 clicks and 20 mins of video under the belt (utterly pampered, used in studio most of the time and outside only in sunny dry weather, no seaside for this baby!
Therefore I might hang on to it rather than sell it for peanuts!


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Jun 16, 2013 17:27 |  #7

The 5D Mk III has the same 1080p video resolution as the 7D but there are differences in what shows up on the video screen. My smartphone also does 1080p video but I can assure you that my 5D video looks much nicer. Both are 1080p but the 5D has much better high ISO capability, better dynamic range, wider field of view, and shallower depth of field. There are probably some other differences too, but you might need an expert to spot them.


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Jun 16, 2013 18:09 |  #8

msowsun wrote in post #16036829 (external link)
The 5D Mk III has the same 1080p video resolution as the 7D but here are differences in what shows up on the video screen. My smartphone also does 1080p video but I can assure you that my 5D video looks much nicer. Both are 1080p but the 5D has much better high ISO capability, better dynamic range, wider field of view, and shallower depth of field. There are probably some other differences too, but you might need an expert to spot them.

Thanks Mike
That is what I had hoped, well if I get the job I will go for the 5D3.
If I recall you had a 7D.
Any regrets? I am looking for better low light performance , higher resolution, and hopefully better AF accuracy and a higher in focus keeper rate.


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Jun 16, 2013 18:28 |  #9

Yes, I had the 7D and then bought a 5D Mk II as well. I basically stopped using the 7D because I liked the full frame advantages, but I always missed the other features of the 7D. I eventually sold both to buy the 5D Mk III and couldn't be happier.


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Jun 17, 2013 00:08 as a reply to  @ msowsun's post |  #10

As in my sig, I have/had them all. I sold the 5DII for poor focus, got the 5DIII and am quite happy with my array of bodies. The 5DIII and 7D are different beasts, so I use them for different purposes, except concert shooting, where I use them both with a 17-55 2.8/70-200mm 2.8 IS II. Dream team :D


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Jun 19, 2013 18:48 |  #11

Try searching YouTube, I remember watching a video comparison on the mkiii and 7d for stills and video. As mentioned earlier, the image quality in video differs just as the image quality in stills differ between the two cameras.

I have both a mkiii and a 7d. I use the mkiii more, and keep the 7d as a backup and second shooter when doing events.

For stills, what I find is the 7d requires accurate exposure to achieve its best image quality. Where the mkiii has a bit more leeway and headroom to adjust in light room. For me, images sooc seem a bit sharper from the mkiii. I have a small home studio I use to shoot my toddler son, and I started out using my 7d. Images
Were pretty good, but I was pleasantly surprised by how much better the mkiii images were, especially in such a controlled environment where I had the time and capability to properly meter and control the light and exposure.

Autofocus and buffer size don't really affect video quality as much as the sensor and processor. Moire, pixel level sharpness, dynamic range, etc are directly affected by the sensor and processor, of which the mkiii has the advantage. Another improvement is magic lantern is the ability to capture raw .


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