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Should I pull the trigger on the 70-200 f4 non is?

 
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Jun 15, 2013 23:55 |  #16

I had the IS version first, then returned it because I felt it was too pricey for what it was. The I bought the non-IS version before I came across a good deal on a used IS.

IQ-wise they are near indistinguishable. The differences you are paying for are just weather sealing and IS, nothing more.

I would not advise buying the f4 IS new; look for a nice used copy.

I found that the lack of IS was not particularly limiting for what I use it for, but I wanted the weather sealing, and IS "just in case".

Both are very good lenses. The non-IS is definitely more value for money, but the IS is the more versatile.

If you intend to shoot static subjects in low light without a tripod, then save up for the IS. If you shoot moving subjects most of the time or have a tripod with you always, you can save yourself the money and go non-IS.


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Jun 16, 2013 00:22 |  #17

Definitely get it used. I got mine for about $900. It would have cost me over $1100 new.


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Jun 16, 2013 09:22 |  #18

I believe 70-200 f4 non-IS is just the right lens to upgrade from 55-250. It is a factor of 2.5x increase in price, and provides a significant increase in IQ (especially at the edges; 55-250 is rather useless for landscape and architecture because of soft edges), which makes it a sensible upgrade route. I don't get the 'just get f4 IS instead', because it is another factor of two increase in price. You might as well say 'just go for 70-200 f2.8 II', makes as much sense. As others suggested, if you buy f4 used, you won't loose any money when you sell it.


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Jun 16, 2013 09:55 |  #19

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I don't get the 'just get f4 IS instead', because it is another factor of two increase in price. You might as well say 'just go for 70-200 f2.8 II', makes as much sense. As others suggested, if you buy f4 used, you won't loose any money when you sell it.

OP indicated in post #11 that he shoots indoors at fairly low shutter speeds. IS should be useful to him for this reason. Of course, if he can use a tripod, he can get around it but given that he is interested in church and theater shots, I don't know if I tripod is practical or allowed.


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Jun 16, 2013 15:14 |  #20

Scrumhalf wrote in post #16035830 (external link)
OP indicated in post #11 that he shoots indoors at fairly low shutter speeds. IS should be useful to him for this reason. Of course, if he can use a tripod, he can get around it but given that he is interested in church and theater shots, I don't know if I tripod is practical or allowed.

^^ This is a very good point. Given the situations that the OP is shooting in, and the low shutter speeds I would also try to get the f4 IS if I was in the same position. Then again you could always get the non-IS, and if you find yourself shooting at church you can always bring a long a monopod and if anyone asks just tell them you have a bad knee! :eek: :lol: After all there are some monopods that I've seen that look like a hiking/walking stick.


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Jun 16, 2013 15:59 |  #21

Has anyone mentioned monopods yet?


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Jun 16, 2013 16:59 |  #22

I own the Ef 70-200 f4L non IS USM model, and wish I spent a few more on the IS. As things evolved I found I should have gone with the IS model. I will be selling my 70-200 in the next few weeks, after my new 7D arrives. I'll probably be in the market next for the f4L with IS model. BTW, Canon has stopped production on the EF 70-200f2.8 non IS usm model.


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Jun 16, 2013 17:28 |  #23

I bought the IS version, but not because of stabilization. I had read in several reviews (the photozone.de review comes to mind), that the IS version had far better image quality than the non IS version. Quite a few user reviews from those who have tried both seemed to say the same thing. All I know personally is the IS copy is a wickedly sharp lens. And in the long run, it was nice to have the IS.




  
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Jun 16, 2013 18:37 |  #24

get the f4 and a cheap monopod and when you get more money sell it and get the f2.8 variety.


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Jun 16, 2013 19:23 |  #25

You can get that lens for about $500 second hand.


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Jun 16, 2013 19:32 |  #26

If you are outside with plenty of light, it's a wonderful lens. I love mine.




  
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Jun 16, 2013 19:32 |  #27

Scrumhalf wrote in post #16035830 (external link)
OP indicated in post #11 that he shoots indoors at fairly low shutter speeds. IS should be useful to him for this reason. Of course, if he can use a tripod, he can get around it but given that he is interested in church and theater shots, I don't know if I tripod is practical or allowed.

It is not practical at all. I would love a 2.8, but I could get a Siggy or Tamron 70-200 for the Price if a Canon f4. I do like the IQ of Canon though,


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Jun 16, 2013 19:36 |  #28

I have the F4 non IS and as others have mentioned here, at slower shutter speeds you will want to pick up a mono or tri-pod. I picked up a Targus monopod at Walmart today for $15 so the cost is minimal.
Here is a shot I took handheld at about 15 feet and cropped about 75%. The shutter speed was 1/320 and I think this is pretty sharp for handhold.

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Jun 16, 2013 23:02 |  #29

Scrumhalf wrote in post #16035830 (external link)
OP indicated in post #11 that he shoots indoors at fairly low shutter speeds. IS should be useful to him for this reason. Of course, if he can use a tripod, he can get around it but given that he is interested in church and theater shots, I don't know if I tripod is practical or allowed.

This and have a monopod at hand as well.




  
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Jun 17, 2013 15:05 |  #30

Ok, I am looking at the Sigma 50-150. Thats intetesting


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