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Jun 19, 2013 14:55 |  #1

i've been kicking around an idea of consolidating my following 2 lenses into 1.

what i have:
canon 24-70mm f2.8L
canon 70-300 f4-5.6

what i'm considering:
canon 28-300 f3.5-5.6L

since my 24-70 is already heavy, the other one can't be that much worse. i really like the idea of not having to switch lenses for different shots. mostly do outdoor/nature and car photography. i'm not professional and just enjoy this as a hobby.

any recommendations for either keeping current setup or definitely upgrading? anything else i should think about?




  
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Jun 19, 2013 15:22 |  #2

powerhousefan wrote in post #16045945 (external link)
i've been kicking around an idea of consolidating my following 2 lenses into 1.

what i have:
canon 24-70mm f2.8L
canon 70-300 f4-5.6

what i'm considering:
canon 28-300 f3.5-5.6L

since my 24-70 is already heavy, the other one can't be that much worse. i really like the idea of not having to switch lenses for different shots. mostly do outdoor/nature and car photography. i'm not professional and just enjoy this as a hobby.

any recommendations for either keeping current setup or definitely upgrading? anything else i should think about?

No experience with it, but the 28-300L weighs about twice what the 24-70 V1 weighs. It weighs more than both of your current lenses combined.


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Jun 19, 2013 15:41 |  #3

Keep your lenses.




  
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Jun 19, 2013 15:48 as a reply to  @ mike_d's post |  #4

i hear you that it weighs even more. i guess my thinking is that 24-70 is heavy in comparison to the other lenses i have. an even heavier lens is not going to make that much difference.

nobody is backing me up on this? i really like the idea of not having to switch lenses.




  
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Jun 19, 2013 15:52 |  #5

You are trading one great lens, one mediocre lens for a longer mediocre lens. At least with the 24-70 you have 2.8 and fantastic IQ for part of the range.




  
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Jun 19, 2013 15:54 |  #6

The 28-300 is a lot bigger and heavier than the 24-70.

One often overlooked other issue with the 28-300 is that the MFD is 0.7m, which is fine at 300mm but is quite long at 28mm.


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Jun 19, 2013 16:02 |  #7

Im not sure if people who commented in this thread have actually experience with 28-300mm lens, I meant a real experience not just testing in the store or used other peoples lens. I used to have it for a while and along with 1d4 was my walk around rig. Yes it is very heavy and thats the ony problem. I sold my 24-70mm to get this lens. The IQ was amazing thruout the range and it was sharp too.

If you can get over the weight and not having 2.8 then it is a very good lens. The ONLY reason i sold the combo is to fund canon 500mm, otherwise I would have kept it


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Jun 19, 2013 16:40 |  #8

I'm not a big fan of replacing multiple lenses with just 1.... the whole point of the DSLR is to get the right lens for the right moment...
otherwise just get whatever the latest high zoom powershot Canon sells, and you'll have a much lighter camera, a lot cheaper


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Jun 19, 2013 17:22 |  #9

SMP_Homer wrote in post #16046228 (external link)
I'm not a big fan of replacing multiple lenses with just 1.... the whole point of the DSLR is to get the right lens for the right moment...
otherwise just get whatever the latest high zoom powershot Canon sells, and you'll have a much lighter camera, a lot cheaper

I agree with the right lens for the right job. Yet, the OP might want the benefits that come the bigger sensor size and control of a dSLR body. He could also opt eventually for a couple primes in his favorite range. Neither of which comes with the a point and shoot. But it would be lighter and a ton cheaper.

I've used super zooms, but never that one. It is supposedly very good for a super zoom. I have used other super zooms, and never liked them. I think that you will definitely lose IQ in the 28-70mm range, but either stay equal or possibly gain a little IQ in the 71-300mm range compared to your current lenses.


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Jun 19, 2013 21:08 as a reply to  @ jimewall's post |  #10

I've used super zooms, but never that one. It is supposedly very good for a super zoom. I have used other super zooms, and never liked them. I think that you will definitely lose IQ in the 28-70mm range, but either stay equal or possibly gain a little IQ in the 71-300mm range compared to your current lenses.

i would say that i find myself using the 24-70 a lot more than the 70-300. so i would say that's a little concerning. the 70-300 is usually for the fast moving shots around the track (car races). given i now have a 1 year old kid i don't get out much to the track :)

Im not sure if people who commented in this thread have actually experience with 28-300mm lens, I meant a real experience not just testing in the store or used other peoples lens. I used to have it for a while and along with 1d4 was my walk around rig. Yes it is very heavy and thats the ony problem. I sold my 24-70mm to get this lens. The IQ was amazing thruout the range and it was sharp too

a little contradicting to the other statement. i really need to find somebody with this lens and test it out, to see if i like it better.

the weight issue is a little concerning for my overseas trips. the 24-70 does get tiring on an all day walks. can't image if the 28-300 is double the weight.

decisions, decisions, decisions...




  
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Jun 19, 2013 21:19 |  #11

If changing lenses is your primary concern, buy an SX50.




  
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Jun 20, 2013 06:43 |  #12

Since you want to go with a single lens, the obvious one with the best zoom range would be the Canon EF 35-350 f3.5-5.6L, in my estimation.

With a 10X zoom range, it should fill the bill for your birding, especially at 350.

However, you may find the 35mm end not quite wide enough for cars. This past weekend, there was a very large mostly outdoor car show and I went with my 24-105 on a 5D3. Most of the time, I was wider than 35mm, even outdoors. Due to crowds, I had to be within 20 feet of the car or someone would be between me and the car.

I'm glad I chose the 24-105. Small enough, light enough, fast enough. Carrying a gripped 5D3 and some extra-heavy glass would quickly become painful for this Medicare aged shooter.

I'd probably try renting several lens contenders before plunking down any big bucks on something white and heavy.


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Jun 20, 2013 07:08 |  #13

powerhousefan wrote in post #16046912 (external link)
the weight issue is a little concerning for my overseas trips. the 24-70 does get tiring on an all day walks. can't image if the 28-300 is double the weight.

I think this point is probably really important... a 1/1.5kg lens in a backpack doesn't necessarily feel that heavy, but leave it on camera all day and you're going to notice it! Have you considered swapping the 24-70 for the 24-105 which is both lighter and gives you more reach in a single lens...? I know it's not the same as the 28-300 in terms of flexibility, but it's much lighter. It all depends if you need f2.8 too...

Weights:
- Canon 24-70 = 950g
- Canon 24-105 = 670g
- Canon 70-300 = 630g
- Canon 28-300 = 1,670g


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Jun 20, 2013 08:10 as a reply to  @ chrismarriott66's post |  #14

Have you considered swapping the 24-70 for the 24-105 which is both lighter and gives you more reach in a single lens...?

i actually spent a significant amount of time contemplating between these 2 lenses before purchasing the 24-70. to be honest, i find myself using the lower range more frequently than the upper end. i honestly love my 24-70. maybe i should consider upgrading my 70-300 instead.

Since you want to go with a single lens, the obvious one with the best zoom range would be the Canon EF 35-350 f3.5-5.6L

have not considered this option at all. didn't know this lens existed. i'm assuming it's a discontinued one as i no longer see it on the canon's website.




  
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Jun 20, 2013 09:34 as a reply to  @ powerhousefan's post |  #15

Yes, the 35-350L is discontinued. It also had no IS.

There is the L version of your 70-300. It is supposed to be an excellent lens. It is also not light at 1050g, so it is a little heavier than your brick.

There is the 70-200L f/4 IS, it only weights 760g. That's not much more than your 70-300. Much better IQ. Even with a 1.4TC it would almost be 300 and have the same aperture at the long end with still better IQ. My guess is it would still have better IQ with 2X than your lens (but unless you have a series 1 body you will lose AF with a reporting 2X).

There are also off brands lenses in these ranges.

You never did say whether you were on a crop or FF camera nor a budget. I based my recommendations of FF. If you have a crop, there is the 55-250. I doubt there is any change in IQ compared to your lens, but it is way lighter. Also you lose 50mm at the long end. That may not be much, but it is still noticeable.


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