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Seriously considering the 85L (f1.2)

 
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Jun 21, 2013 01:24 as a reply to  @ post 16050382 |  #31

I have both lenses as well. IMHO, the 85 is an exceptional value. I use mine often, especially when I want a walk around lens with a little reach and none of the look-at-me factor a big lens has. Great lens.

But the 85L easily two or three times better if only for that luscious bokeh. Certainly not five times better. But better is better. It's not a great value, especially compared to the 85, but it is a great lens in it's own right in ways the standard 85 can't quite match.

It's a quirky lens, too. The slow focus and hunting in low light. And the sheer weight. It really isn't for everyone. But take the time to find what it does well and it is a hard lens to part with.




  
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Jun 21, 2013 04:19 |  #32

It's a must have lens for portrait works.




  
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Jun 21, 2013 10:19 |  #33

Indoors, 85L is king.

Outdoors, longer lenses obliterate the background better

For example an unscientific test:

85L @ f/1.2:

IMAGE: http://galleries.clartephoto.com/img/s3/v42/p167050962-4.jpg

200L @ f/2:
IMAGE: http://galleries.clartephoto.com/img/s1/v47/p421253244-4.jpg

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Jun 21, 2013 10:23 |  #34

And here's some images to demonstrate the 85L's versatility - all at f/1.2:

IMAGE: http://galleries.clartephoto.com/img/s2/v70/p1349587376-4.jpg

IMAGE: http://galleries.clartephoto.com/img/s8/v81/p1791110922-4.jpg

IMAGE: http://galleries.clartephoto.com/img/s8/v84/p1842678227-4.jpg

IMAGE: http://galleries.clartephoto.com/img/s8/v75/p1737598926-4.jpg

IMAGE: http://galleries.clartephoto.com/img/s9/v96/p1862772160-4.jpg

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Jun 21, 2013 10:38 |  #35

smorter wrote in post #16051612 (external link)
Indoors, 85L is king.

Outdoors, longer lenses obliterate the background better

For example an unscientific test:

85L @ f/1.2:


200L @ f/2:

Colors look the same between 85L and 200L.:)


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Jun 21, 2013 11:17 |  #36

smorter wrote in post #16051612 (external link)
Indoors, 85L is king.

Outdoors, longer lenses obliterate the background better

The point is not to obliterate the background - that's boring, you can do much better in a studio. The point is to blur it enough (while keeping the model perfectly sharp), to both achieve the "3D" effect (model pops out of the photo) and at the same time preserve the recognisable background, to make it an environmental portrait. (Yes, there is such thing as "too much blur" :) ) As 85L includes much more background (for the same framing) than say 200L, it produces much more interesting portraits.

Something like this:

http://www.flickr.com …orzi/7620324958​/lightbox/ (external link)


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Jun 21, 2013 11:44 |  #37

bobbyz wrote in post #16051664 (external link)
Colors look the same between 85L and 200L.:)

The red spectrum looks more saturated on the 85 1.2 to me.

Contrast on the grey sweater is a nice comparison too. For the record neither lens sucks in that match up. Love them both


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Jun 21, 2013 11:46 |  #38

bobbyz wrote in post #16050342 (external link)
Off topic - Since you have 70-200mm f2.8 IS II and 85L, would you mind same shot at f2.8 with both. I want to see the color differences.

Don't think there's a difference. 85 1.8 and 85 1.2 however is obvious.


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Jun 21, 2013 11:52 |  #39

The 85L II is my favorite portrait lens. If you shoot portraits, it is simply the best tool for the job along with a full frame body.


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Jun 21, 2013 13:24 |  #40

Oh dear. You lot should be telling me that the lens sucks and I only need my 24-70. Looks like I'll have to get one. Deep breaths, think on it......


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Jun 21, 2013 16:56 |  #41

I have never used the 85 f1.8 so I can't say how good it is. Here is one taken with the F1.2 L at f1.8, the second one was at f1.2. I love the colors!

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Jun 21, 2013 17:02 |  #42

pilsburypie wrote in post #16052212 (external link)
Oh dear. You lot should be telling me that the lens sucks and I only need my 24-70. Looks like I'll have to get one. Deep breaths, think on it......

Look through this before you make up your mind:

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1048516


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Jun 21, 2013 17:27 |  #43

smorter wrote in post #16051612 (external link)
Indoors, 85L is king.

Outdoors, longer lenses obliterate the background better

For example an unscientific test:

85L @ f/1.2:
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200L @ f/2:
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Dude, that is about as 3D as one can get. Beauty.


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Jun 21, 2013 17:39 |  #44

kdrk888 wrote in post #16052885 (external link)
I have never used the 85 f1.8 so I can't say how good it is. Here is one taken with the F1.2 L at f1.8, the second one was at f1.2. I love the colors!

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What is so special in these colors? Sorry to keep arguing on that point.

Cheap 85mm f1.8

IMAGE: http://www.bobbyzphotography.com/img/s1/v6/p595011663-5.jpg

I like to have 85L and love that f1.2 look so not dissing the lens. Just saying that most good L glass has same colors, one might have little bit more pop than the other but that more with aperture and contrast.

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Jun 21, 2013 18:31 |  #45

Don't forget the sigma 85 ;-)a

Half the cost of the 85L, same "magical look".


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