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Jun 20, 2013 18:33 |  #1

So if both are f4 lis why would you want the 24-70 when the 24-105 gives you more reach, and on the short end, there the same.


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Jun 20, 2013 19:03 |  #2

The 24-70 has better IQ (less distortion on the wide end is the biggie, sharpness is a bit better), newer (about 1 stop better) IS, and macro mode.

But I wouldn't want the 24-70. I picked the 24-105 when the 24-70 was already out, because I wanted the extra range and lower price.


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Jun 20, 2013 19:08 |  #3

Sirrith wrote in post #16049709 (external link)
The 24-70 has better IQ (less distortion on the wide end is the biggie, sharpness is a bit better), newer (about 1 stop better) IS, and macro mode.

But I wouldn't want the 24-70. I picked the 24-105 when the 24-70 was already out, because I wanted the extra range and lower price.

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Jun 20, 2013 20:24 |  #4

Bianchi wrote in post #16049649 (external link)
So if both are f4 lis why would you want the 24-70 ...

Better optics and more compact size.
These are the advantages of the new 24-70 over the 24-105.

Of course the current price totally negates these advantages :mrgreen:.
So, the 24-105 emerges as the winner in my book.




  
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Jun 20, 2013 21:21 |  #5

You only asked half the question. Why get either when the 24-70 f/2.8 II is available? OK, I could possibly understand the 24-70 f/4.




  
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Jun 20, 2013 23:46 |  #6

Tommy1957 wrote in post #16050110 (external link)
You only asked half the question. Why get either when the 24-70 f/2.8 II is available? OK, I could possibly understand the 24-70 f/4.

Because not everyone needs 2.8, nor wants to carry around a heavier lens, nor wants to spend over $2000 on a less versatile mid range zoom? The 24-70 II lacks IS and range compared to the 24-105, is about triple the price, and would not make my photography better in any way.


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Jun 21, 2013 07:39 |  #7

Both the 24-105L and the 24-70 2.8 II have their places in the lineup. However, I'm just not convinced the 24-70 f/4 does. To me it seems like that with this lens Canon answered a question that nobody had asked.


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Jun 21, 2013 09:46 |  #8

Sirrith wrote in post #16050455 (external link)
Because not everyone needs 2.8, nor wants to carry around a heavier lens, nor wants to spend over $2000 on a less versatile mid range zoom? The 24-70 II lacks IS and range compared to the 24-105, is about triple the price, and would not make my photography better in any way.

That sums up my reasons for owning the 24-105L. If I need a lens faster than f/4, chances are I will want it to be faster than f/2.8, too. So I supplement my kit with fast primes to meet those needs. For a general purpose walk around, I prefer the added focal range and IS.


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Jun 21, 2013 10:00 |  #9

I would gladly swap my 24-105 for the 24-70F4 if they were the same price, as I dont use the long end that much. But to pay extra and still compromise seems a bit too far.




  
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Jun 21, 2013 12:21 |  #10

Is the macro better on the 24-70? just asking because the 24-105 focuses at 1.5 feet which is pretty good


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Jun 21, 2013 12:51 |  #11

jaomul wrote in post #16052010 (external link)
Is the macro better on the 24-70? just asking because the 24-105 focuses at 1.5 feet which is pretty good

It's considerable better, I think it's a 1:2


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Jun 21, 2013 16:00 |  #12

I'd like to replace my 24-105 with a 24-70 f4 for the MFD(I'm not talking about the with the Macro feature engaged but that's something I'd like to have in a walk around lens and have found handy in the past) as they don't make dome ports big enough(nor would I want one that big) for it's MFD.

I'm just glad they're finally going to start putting the 24-70 f4 in kits so I might be able to find someone that rather have the extra 35mm on the long end so I can work a trade plus <cash than selling and buying new retail boxed(white box might be an option soon as well).




  
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Jun 21, 2013 16:26 |  #13

gabebalazs wrote in post #16051114 (external link)
To me it seems like that with this lens Canon answered a question that nobody had asked.

Seems to me this is happening too often with Canon.

VIP says "Who wants to design a $800 f2.8 wide angle lens with IS?"
Engineer says, "Ooh ME! ME!"
Piss ant in back row says, "Shouldn't we ask if people would buy that first?"
VIP and Engineer say together, " Shut up piss ant."


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Jun 22, 2013 18:03 |  #14

Scott M wrote in post #16051490 (external link)
That sums up my reasons for owning the 24-105L. If I need a lens faster than f/4, chances are I will want it to be faster than f/2.8, too. So I supplement my kit with fast primes to meet those needs. For a general purpose walk around, I prefer the added focal range and IS.

Makes sense


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Jun 22, 2013 18:30 |  #15

The macro feature is pretty sweet on the f4...check out the images I just added to the dedicated lens thread. :)


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