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Jun 22, 2013 15:19 |  #1

Please before I go home and start post processing, how can I counter the red house lights? I had to shoot between 16-3200 too. Yes I shoot cr2. The lighting person did not show up and they ran the show under red gels.


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Jun 23, 2013 07:40 |  #2

If everything was shot under virtually monchromatic light thanks to the gels then everything is going to look red. You are not going to be able to fix this with the WB tools,as there will be virtually no data in the green or blue channels to work with. I would think your best option would be to convert the images to B&W unless the situation is one where the red light might be expected. It must have been an "interesting" experiance watching any sort of production exclusivly under red gelled light.

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Jun 23, 2013 08:38 |  #3

This video might be of interest:

http://petapixel.com …cert-photos-in-lightroom/ (external link)




  
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Jun 23, 2013 09:17 as a reply to  @ InterMurph's post |  #4

good video...thanks ;)


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Jun 23, 2013 10:35 |  #5

Some comments on that video complain that the reality was red, so the photo should be red. But I much prefer the "true" colors.

And I like the technique; I learned something new there.




  
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Jun 23, 2013 14:44 |  #6

I converted a few so far to black and white. Like BigAl said above they are going to expect a few to be red becsuse it wad the color of the house.
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Jun 24, 2013 02:32 |  #7

Personally speaking I like the B&W ones - The 'red' ones just look wrong, but as you say, If people saw it that way, they may expect them to reflect that.

I'd be processing them both B&W and 'red', that way I think you'll please everyone!


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Jun 24, 2013 05:57 |  #8

InterMurph wrote in post #16057144 (external link)
Some comments on that video complain that the reality was red, so the photo should be red.

I'd agree with that.
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Jun 24, 2013 12:57 |  #9

WOAH! Something crazy just happened. I was clicking some minor parts of the photo that had light on it to soften the red and I accidentally clicked onto the black dress. It cut ALL the red and gave me colors. What the hell just happened?

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Jun 24, 2013 14:20 |  #10

You white balanced on the dress, which could, ostensibly, be neutral and so provide DPP with a neutral reference to scale the R,G and B channels. Taaadahhh! That's how white balance works.

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Jun 24, 2013 14:29 |  #11

kirkt wrote in post #16060773 (external link)
You white balanced on the dress, which could, ostensibly, be neutral and so provide DPP with a neutral reference to scale the R,G and B channels. Taaadahhh! That's how white balance works.

maybe?

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DUDE, I am self taught so I always thought white balance was white or neutral grey. Never black....I guess? #shootraw


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Jun 24, 2013 14:59 |  #12

Well think about it... white, grey and black are all derived by mixing equal amounts of Red, Blue and Green (additive color theory). The only difference aamong them is the amount of luminance or brightness where white represents 100 percent brightness, grey is 50 percent brightness, and black 0 percent.


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Jun 24, 2013 15:48 |  #13

So how is this conversion:

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Jun 24, 2013 16:15 |  #14

I'd say you've lost a bit too much of the red for me, seems a bit cold. At the end of the day there isn't a 'right' answer to this, you have to play with the sliders until you find something you're happy with. As you shoot RAW you have more info to play with.




  
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Jun 24, 2013 16:18 |  #15

broadcast_techie wrote in post #16061091 (external link)
I'd say you've lost a bit too much of the red for me, seems a bit cold. At the end of the day there isn't a 'right' answer to this, you have to play with the sliders until you find something you're happy with. As you shoot RAW you have more info to play with.

See, that's the thing. I kind of like some of the red photos because that was what people will probably remember. I do want to cut it in a lot of photos though. I am glad I shot raw....phew! If I were a graphic artist I could probably fix this...Thanks guys


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