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Jun 24, 2013 01:38 |  #1

I took this about 15 hours after the 'official' time of the supermoon.

I took this photo with my Canon 60D and Sigma 150-500 lens.

I would call it a 'fair' shot but not great. This is cropped at 50% but nothing else has been done to the shot.

I am not really good at doing any PP.

My main concern is it appears to be slightly out of focus.

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I used ISO800 so I could use a faster shutter speed to try and help the focus (not knowing exactly what my focal length was but knew it was slightly under 500)

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Jun 24, 2013 05:52 |  #2

Focus looks ok but my biggest gripe is that its too dark.


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Jun 24, 2013 08:19 as a reply to  @ mrbubbles's post |  #3

Thank you mrbubbles. Does this look better? I did a Levels in Photoshop Elements 11.

The focus to me still looks off to me. I have seen many other shots here that look spot on with the same body same lens.

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Jun 24, 2013 12:41 |  #4

That looks better. The moon can be tricky and a lot depends on the atmospheric conditions. Pollution, humidity other weather factors make it difficult. I dont know anything about India so I cant offer you any advice other than try to find a dark location on a clear night. It does look like you had some atmospheric disturbance based on the way the edge of the moon looks. Just dont give up!


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Jun 24, 2013 13:32 |  #5

mrbubbles wrote in post #16060465 (external link)
That looks better. The moon can be tricky and a lot depends on the atmospheric conditions. Pollution, humidity other weather factors make it difficult. I dont know anything about India so I cant offer you any advice other than try to find a dark location on a clear night. It does look like you had some atmospheric disturbance based on the way the edge of the moon looks. Just dont give up!

I also do not know anything about India as I live in Indiana (maybe that was a miss-spelling on your part and you intended to spell Indiana?) :)

Thank you for your input!


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Jun 24, 2013 13:51 |  #6

Haha no it was actually a mis-read. Oops!

You should check out these sites.

Clear Sky Chart (external link) - Awesome site. It will give you a broken down look each night at the different conditions for viewing the heavans above. Search for Indiana and find a location closest to you or your destination to see what kind of conditions are forcasted for your area.

Dark Sky Finder (external link) - Self explanatory.


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Jun 25, 2013 11:53 as a reply to  @ mrbubbles's post |  #7

I looked at those sites, but sadly they are both over my head. I can understand the dark sky finder slightly as I know where I live we do not have dark skies at all. Too many city lights around where I live.


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Jun 25, 2013 21:30 |  #8

Inspeqtor wrote in post #16059765 (external link)
I have seen many other shots here that look spot on with the same body same lens.

There's a lot more to it than bodies and lenses!


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Jun 25, 2013 23:36 |  #9

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There's a lot more to it than bodies and lenses!

Do you have any idea what I could do different to improve my end results?


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Jun 25, 2013 23:59 |  #10

Inspeqtor wrote in post #16065499 (external link)
Do you have any idea what I could do different to improve my end results?

Bigger aperture, lower ISO, timed shutter? It looks a little soft and grainy.


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Jun 26, 2013 01:39 |  #11

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Bigger aperture,

Won't a bigger aperture make it less in focus? I was taught the smaller the aperture the better chance for better focus.

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lower ISO,

As I said in the first post I used a higher ISO for a faster shutter speed. But then as I just thought about a bigger aperture lets in more light to help with lower ISO. I would not want to go 'too big' on the aperture on my lens.

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timed shutter?

What do you mean by timed shutter?

I always use my RS60-E3 Remote Switch when shooting the moon so there will be less camera shake.

NBEast wrote in post #16065528 (external link)
It looks a little soft and grainy.

Thank you. I have always felt it looks soft and grainy also.

In closing, what aperture, shutter speed and ISO would you recommend?


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Jun 26, 2013 10:26 |  #12

Aperture will not be the most concern for you. The moon is so far away that as long as you are set to infinity focus you should be fine. But to be safe I would shoot at least at f/4. Shutter speed should be no less than 1/160 to avoid blur from the moon. ISO should be set accordingly. A low ISO usually works well.

Its good that you use the remote shutter release. Other than that like I said its going to come down to your specific location and the conditions in the sky.


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Jun 26, 2013 11:28 as a reply to  @ mrbubbles's post |  #13

Thank you. The next time I have a chance to shoot the moon I will take these tips and put them into practice.

With my Sigma 150-500 the aperture range is f5 to f6.3 then at the higher zoom of course the best I can get is f6.3


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Jun 26, 2013 11:29 |  #14

NBEast wrote in post #16065528 (external link)
Bigger aperture, lower ISO, timed shutter? It looks a little soft and grainy.

I am still hoping to learn what you mean by a timed shutter....


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Jun 26, 2013 14:24 |  #15

Inspeqtor wrote in post #16066701 (external link)
I am still hoping to learn what you mean by a timed shutter....

I'm sure he means "delayed" shutter. i.e. 2 secs after button press.

I agree that aperture can be Low 5.6 etc because the sides and the closet point of the moon (front) can be considered as being at the same distance from the lens. Smaller aperture allows you to use lower ISO and faster shutter speed.

White Balance should be set to SUN as it SUNlight that is reflecting from the moon.

Very importantly, you MUST turn off any Image Stabilizer when using Telephoto lenses on a Tripod. The stabilising motors cause vibrations that work against stability if the camera is rigidly mounted on a tripod.

I wish to own that same lens one day ;)


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