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Do I really need my canon speedlite 580ex II

 
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Jun 26, 2013 17:39 |  #1
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I have 5d mark III and 70-200 f2.8 II , I usually shoot indoor sport
sold my 24-105 and 50mm 1.4
now will post my Canon Speedlite 580ex II on craiglist.
Trying to buy the 24-70 f2.8 II




  
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Jun 26, 2013 17:43 |  #2

Do you use it reguraly?

But it never hurts to have a proper flash.


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Jun 26, 2013 17:47 |  #3

I sold mine and got one of the third party brands for around $70, I didnt need my flash to cost that much, couldnt justify having it in my collection knowing I needed better glass.


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Jun 26, 2013 17:47 |  #4
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no just twice when first bought with my canon 20d , I upgrade to 5d mark III and everyone saying it is very good with high iso and darkness. So do you think it pointless keeping the flash?




  
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Jun 26, 2013 18:08 |  #5

thinkharder wrote in post #16067809 (external link)
no just twice when first bought with my canon 20d , I upgrade to 5d mark III and everyone saying it is very good with high iso and darkness. So do you think it pointless keeping the flash?

The purpose of the flash does much more than just provide light in dark situations though. If you master it, then it would allow you to achieve great images at lower and less noisy ISO. In addition, you can also use flash outdoor to enhance your images. Understand how to bounce the flash (I am not yet there) will also help you to be more creative.




  
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Jun 26, 2013 19:12 |  #6

Now is a great time to sell the 580EXII since the price of new 580EXII did not drop with the 600's release.

There's plenty of inexpensive 3rd party flash out there that might do the job, especially if you can setup light stands.


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Jun 26, 2013 19:13 |  #7

Buckeye1 wrote in post #16067866 (external link)
The purpose of the flash does much more than just provide light in dark situations though. If you master it, then it would allow you to achieve great images at lower and less noisy ISO. In addition, you can also use flash outdoor to enhance your images. Understand how to bounce the flash (I am not yet there) will also help you to be more creative.

^^This. I don't own 3 speedlights so I can make a midnight shot look like high noon- it's all about placing your lights to get the look you want.

That said, what are your photographic goals? Are your indoor sports shots documentation of your kids' sporting events, or are you shooting professional events for publication? In the case of the former, you may well be fine with just using available light- you'll certainly get very serviceable family-album-worthy shots. If you want to add an element of drama, and a flash won't interfere with the event, then I'd recommend really mastering your 580 and adding some of your own light.



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Jun 26, 2013 20:45 |  #8

I just ordered a couple 600RT, I think I will use it more on camera just for extra bit of detail with ETTL...in the future I might do some strobist lighting with the athletes, I think they will like their "posed" portraits as much as their action photos (I have a few things i'd like to experiment on). Mine are to be non-commissioned prints, they're mostly kids, as long as they're willing to help me in my photographic pursuit then this is how I repay them.




  
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Jun 26, 2013 20:46 as a reply to  @ auto-clicker's post |  #9

sell it. that's the best way to find out if you need it :D!


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Jun 26, 2013 21:15 |  #10

Buckeye1 wrote in post #16067866 (external link)
The purpose of the flash does much more than just provide light in dark situations though. If you master it, then it would allow you to achieve great images at lower and less noisy ISO. In addition, you can also use flash outdoor to enhance your images. Understand how to bounce the flash (I am not yet there) will also help you to be more creative.

Flash may mean lower-ISO-less-noisy shots. Or it can mean better higher-ISO less noisy shots. I have no problem going to ISO 1600, while using flash, to try to match flash with ambient exposure. On either 60D or 5D, a properly exposed ISO 1600 shot shows very little noise. What does come up looks a boatload better than the same shot at ISO 100 with a bright subject and nearly black periphery. You sure couldn't do this with film!




  
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Jun 26, 2013 21:18 |  #11

I just bought a used EX 580 II to go with my 2 EX 550s & STE 2. I don't use flash that much but I am not ready to get into the next generation of flashes.


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Jun 27, 2013 01:30 |  #12

Flash photography is pretty dificult to do it "the right way" but once you master it one can't go without.
You always come across situations where flash is demanded. For instance outdoor backlight. When you don't (flash)compensate you end up with silhouettes or you have to get (uncomfortable) close.
Masking flashlight goes best with a second one. I have two 580's and they work perfect together.
Of course it's a hassle with the extra's like a tripod for the second flash and the reserve batteries but it's worth the effort (and isn't that what we're in for?).
Macro, nature, portrait, the (extra) light brings out the best in a picture.
I have the equipment to go out without but I never do! I mean with a 5dIII and a 85LII one can handle every type of situation but even then I have the flash strapped on :D
Good luck out there!
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