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Jun 27, 2013 23:59 |  #61

I bought my first Mac (Macbook Pro) 3 years ago just to play with OS X. Original intent was this to be my play machine (to do simple things like make photo books with iPhoto) and use my Dell XPS tower computer for "real work." Well, after I got the Macbook Pro and got used to the different keyboard shortcuts, I never touched my PC again. Since then I have upgraded to a Macbook Pro Retina, and have no plans to go back to a Windows PC.




  
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Jun 28, 2013 20:40 |  #62

keyfox11 wrote in post #16065344 (external link)
I stand corrected. I'll still stick with my Mac tho ;)

There's some confusion about what constitutes a 'virus'. Non-techies and media tend to lump spyware, malware, and trojan's into the virus category, which they are not. As far as I've been able to find, there is only one OS X viruses with two variants. To be a virus it must be able to self replicate and infect a machine on it's own. So far, the only one to exist doesn't do much and has already been identified and patched. There are currently ten's of thousands of viruses for Windows machines. That number goes into the millions if you add spyware, malware, and trojans. Statistics say as much as 90% of PC's right now have some form of spyware, malware, trojan, or virus on them and that those are the number one reason people upgrade their PC's (due to slow down).

Don't install software that hasn't been signed by Apple, update your OS, and the chances of you being infected or hacked is extremely remote.




  
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Jun 28, 2013 20:59 |  #63

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In my case -- a polycarbonate case -- my basic MacBook from 2008 has kept me happy, despite a measly 1G of RAM. It's now time to upgrade, (MacBook Pro, non-retina, 8G of RAM) but I'm hesitating between the i5 chip and the i7. There's a $300 price difference that I could perhaps put in the L lens acquisition fund. (LR5, PS CC will be the most horsepower-hungry applications, by the way...)

Damm, I'm quoting myself... will I go blind if I keep doing it? :oops: )

Well, my 8GB l7 MacBookPro (non retina) is now on a boat from China and should arrive on July 7.

So I'm still Mac. (and now reading up on migration)


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Jul 03, 2013 14:54 |  #64

Congrats on the new toy... sorry, tool. :D


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Jul 03, 2013 16:36 |  #65

Thanks keyfox... Unfortunately, I was out walking the puppy (search for Tucker and my username) when the UPS guy showed up with it. He left a note and I'll have to wait a long day to play... sorry use the new MBP...


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Jul 03, 2013 16:40 |  #66

MAC.


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Jul 04, 2013 13:57 |  #67

vinmunoz wrote in post #16088560 (external link)
MAC.

Don't you mean PC? :D


  
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Jul 04, 2013 14:20 |  #68

When you go MAC, you'll never go back to PC (unless you're a gamer). So stay in PC.. for photographers and graphic designer/artist, i think MAC is the best for the job. Just my honest opinion.

I'm not starting a war, I'm just stating my personal opinion.


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Jul 04, 2013 17:22 |  #69
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PC isn't an one trick pony, like Mac ;)


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Jul 04, 2013 18:08 |  #70

As i said. I'm just stating my opinion like you do. Have fun with what you like.


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Jul 05, 2013 12:08 |  #71

vinmunoz wrote in post #16091277 (external link)
When you go MAC, you'll never go back to PC (unless you're a gamer). So stay in PC.. for photographers and graphic designer/artist, i think MAC is the best for the job. Just my honest opinion.

I'm not starting a war, I'm just stating my personal opinion.

Simple question - why?

I'm not interested in a flame war either but I am interested in why you think they are better for photography / graphic design.

I am a freelance photographer and my son is into Graphic design and we both use PC and have done for years without any problems.

I did consider getting a MAC because I do like the way they look but would have had to have WIN 7 installed to run certain client software that will just not run on MAC.

When I looked at the lack of internal storage, lack of proper cooling and zero over clock potential of the MAC's plus concerns over the reflective screen and the inability to run NVIDIA graphics solution (I also use Premiere Pro with it's Mercury Playback engine is CUDA optimized) I just could not make the case for MAC in my own mind.


  
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Jul 05, 2013 12:49 |  #72

Nightstalker wrote in post #16093833 (external link)
I did consider getting a MAC because I do like the way they look but would have had to have WIN 7 installed to run certain client software that will just not run on MAC.

I have some Win software that I run on my Mac, but it's mostly for lab instruments and data analysis. Have to boot up Win 7 in Fusion, though.

When I looked at the lack of internal storage, lack of proper cooling and zero over clock potential of the MAC's

Many people think those are advantages because of the smaller footprint and dead silent computers (except when using Handbrake or Aperture (which really pushes the gpu). I'm also uncertain what you mean about "lack of proper cooling".

plus concerns over the reflective screen

This is why I bought a Mac Mini.

and the inability to run NVIDIA graphics solution (I also use Premiere Pro with it's Mercury Playback engine is CUDA optimized) I just could not make the case for MAC in my own mind.

I think it's more a reflection on the laziness of Adobe's programmers. If they would start using OpenCL that would obviate the need for writing CUDA-specific code. Apple uses OpenCL, thus gpu apps (Aperture, Pixelmator, NIK suite, Final Cut, etc.) don't care if you have an NVidia, AMD or (to a lesser extent) Intel gpu chipset.

But really, it mostly comes down to personal preference on which OS suits one the best. What I can say is that when I started my position 7 years ago, all but two of us (18 people) used Windows computers. Now that I've corrupted my colleagues it's about 50/50 Mac/Win. :)


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Jul 05, 2013 16:51 |  #73

Tony-S wrote in post #16093952 (external link)
I have some Win software that I run on my Mac, but it's mostly for lab instruments and data analysis. Have to boot up Win 7 in Fusion, though.

I know that you can dual boot or run visualization on MAC but it was just a complexity that I decided to do without - I have however set my PC to dual boot WIN 7 and OSX (Hackintosh) but I probably only boot into MAC a few times a year.

Tony-S wrote in post #16093952 (external link)
Many people think those are advantages because of the smaller footprint and dead silent computers (except when using Handbrake or Aperture (which really pushes the gpu). I'm also uncertain what you mean about "lack of proper cooling".


I can see the advantages and I must admit the fans in my PC do drive me nuts at times BUT I can live with it because of the performance I get.

My system is conservatively overclocked from 3.06GHZ to 4GHz with memory running at a stock 1600 MHz. To get this increase reliably I had to improve the cooling with a water cooling kit that brought the operating temps down below what I was getting originally at 3.06GHZ. The form factor (and general anti-fiddle nature) of the MAC would not allow me to uprate anything and I'd be stuck with having to pay £100's extra for a 100MHz speed boost.

Tony-S wrote in post #16093952 (external link)
This is why I bought a Mac Mini.

Same issues apply with the MAC Mini only more so - I'd use one as a general purpose web surfing machine but as a main PC probably not.

Tony-S wrote in post #16093952 (external link)
I think it's more a reflection on the laziness of Adobe's programmers. If they would start using OpenCL that would obviate the need for writing CUDA-specific code. Apple uses OpenCL, thus gpu apps (Aperture, Pixelmator, NIK suite, Final Cut, etc.) don't care if you have an NVidia, AMD or (to a lesser extent) Intel gpu chipset.

Agreed, but unfortunately I cannot have any influence on Adobe's lazyness or lack of.

Tony-S wrote in post #16093952 (external link)
But really, it mostly comes down to personal preference on which OS suits one the best. What I can say is that when I started my position 7 years ago, all but two of us (18 people) used Windows computers. Now that I've corrupted my colleagues it's about 50/50 Mac/Win. :)

I have and do use both (albeit occasionally) - I used to do programming at machine code level back in the early days of Z80, 6502, 8086 and 68000 chips but these days I'm just a user - both OS will allow me to launch different programs and as long as they do that then I'd be fin e with either.


  
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Jul 05, 2013 17:46 |  #74

Nightstalker wrote in post #16094578 (external link)
Same issues apply with the MAC Mini only more so - I'd use one as a general purpose web surfing machine but as a main PC probably not.

The Mac Mini is probably the easiest to upgrade, next to the Mac Pro. It does real-time edits of my 5Dii and Fuji X-E1 raws, Sigma DP1 Merrill and DP3 Merrill, and 4x5" scans, which are over 360 mb as 16-bit TIFFs using Aperture. I imagine Lightroom would stall with such images.


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Jul 09, 2013 16:47 |  #75

FYI

Mac = Apple computer, a.k.a. Macintosh computer

MAC = media access control address, a.k.a. MAC address

Don't know why it bothers me, but I've always been a stickler for grammar and proper usage. :) Cuts down on confusion and keeps things consistant. People will also take you a little more seriously if you know the difference.




  
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