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Jun 29, 2013 13:04 |  #31

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I had hard time shooting f1.4/f2.0 with outer points of 5dmk2. With 5dmk3 same lens was joy to use. So even without action 5dmk3 AF is kick ass.

i cant comment on the 5d2 usinga nifty fifty but when i use to use my nifty fifty on my 400d, the AF was terrible even using centre point.

When i put that same lens on my 5d3, it was like a completely different lens alltogether!

it focused bloody fast and accurate at F1.8! i was shocked.

this was during the night as well walking along the streets of Miami.


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Jun 29, 2013 14:51 |  #32

jonneymendoza wrote in post #16075818 (external link)
i cant comment on the 5d2 usinga nifty fifty but when i use to use my nifty fifty on my 400d, the AF was terrible even using centre point.

When i put that same lens on my 5d3, it was like a completely different lens alltogether!

it focused bloody fast and accurate at F1.8! i was shocked.

this was during the night as well walking along the streets of Miami.

I did some side by side tests with 35L on my 5dk2 it would do back & forth when in AI servo. On 5dmk3 it will be move to the spot and done and much faster. Even when shooting something which doesn't move that fast 5dmk3 AF was so much better.


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Jun 29, 2013 20:57 |  #33

bobbyz wrote in post #16076045 (external link)
I did some side by side tests with 35L on my 5dk2 it would do back & forth when in AI servo. On 5dmk3 it will be move to the spot and done and much faster. Even when shooting something which doesn't move that fast 5dmk3 AF was so much better.


Id upgrade if I could afford to but we dont seem to have the refurbished cameras I hear all you guys talking about, the only used 5DIII cameras I see are on Ebay


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Jun 29, 2013 21:25 |  #34

Sell all your bodies for the 5D3. Once you get the 5D3, all your lenses will instantly feel like its been upgraded. It's such a joy to use and makes life easy. And you won't even use the other bodies. ;)




  
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Jun 29, 2013 23:01 |  #35

aladyforty wrote in post #16076801 (external link)
Id upgrade if I could afford to but we dont seem to have the refurbished cameras I hear all you guys talking about, the only used 5DIII cameras I see are on Ebay

What the above poster says. I would gladly sell 5dmk3, 1dmk3 and 7d for 5dmk3.


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Jun 30, 2013 01:39 |  #36

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What the above poster says. I would gladly sell 5dmk3, 1dmk3 and 7d for 5dmk3.

a no no when one does weddings, one should always have a backup camera


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Jun 30, 2013 03:09 |  #37

aladyforty wrote in post #16077204 (external link)
a no no when one does weddings, one should always have a backup camera

Thats what iphones are for ;)


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Jun 30, 2013 03:17 |  #38

well I went to this site and compared 5DII and 5DIII solely on image quality and to be honest Im not sure if 5DIII is worth the extra thousand or so.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/CO​MPS01.HTM (external link)

Of course 5DIII is slightly better in higher ISO but then I looked at the exif data and they have not taken the photos on identical setting, the same with the shot of the house, one at F8 and one at F5.6 from memory. In any case this has me questioning why I'm even looking at an upgrade while 5DIII is so price high. I wish I could find an honest opinion on the two cameras and not by people who already own and of course will want to justify their purchase, or at least that's how it appears on some forums out there online


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Jun 30, 2013 03:50 |  #39

aladyforty wrote in post #16077296 (external link)
I wish I could find an honest opinion on the two cameras and not by people who already own and of course will want to justify their purchase, or at least that's how it appears on some forums out there online

You might find this review helpful: http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=sX_I9KPPdWY (external link)
One of the better, objective reviews I've seen online. And the photographer actually owns both cameras, along with the 6d.

IMO, it's only worth upgrading if you find the focusing system of the 5D2 limiting to your photographic needs. But that's just my pocket's opinion.




  
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Jun 30, 2013 06:05 |  #40

aladyforty wrote in post #16077296 (external link)
well I went to this site and compared 5DII and 5DIII solely on image quality and to be honest Im not sure if 5DIII is worth the extra thousand or so.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/CO​MPS01.HTM (external link)

Of course 5DIII is slightly better in higher ISO but then I looked at the exif data and they have not taken the photos on identical setting, the same with the shot of the house, one at F8 and one at F5.6 from memory. In any case this has me questioning why I'm even looking at an upgrade while 5DIII is so price high. I wish I could find an honest opinion on the two cameras and not by people who already own and of course will want to justify their purchase, or at least that's how it appears on some forums out there online

I bought a 5D (original) in December. I would dearly love to upgrade for better high-ISO low-light photos. I don't need the AF of the 5D3 or the 21MP of the 5D2 or the wifi/gps gimmicks of the 6D. I just want better (less noisy) photos when I have to shoot 1600+. I compared the raw output of the 6D to my 5D. Not much there to speak of. I can get more out of my 5D by shooting raw, exposing properly, and developing some PP skills, than any of the new bodies offers. Of course, if I do those thing WITH a new body, the results would be even better. So far, I am doing just fine with my 8 year old 5D.

I've said this before. Modern cameras are quite good. You don't upgrade for IQ. You upgrade for features. As far as features go, my 5D is just fine. I am still looking for a reason to upgrade. That said, if I had $3,000 to blow, I'd have a 5D3.




  
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Jun 30, 2013 06:38 |  #41

Tommy1957 wrote in post #16077432 (external link)
I bought a 5D (original) in December. I would dearly love to upgrade for better high-ISO low-light photos. I don't need the AF of the 5D3 or the 21MP of the 5D2 or the wifi/gps gimmicks of the 6D. I just want better (less noisy) photos when I have to shoot 1600+. I compared the raw output of the 6D to my 5D. Not much there to speak of. I can get more out of my 5D by shooting raw, exposing properly, and developing some PP skills, than any of the new bodies offers. Of course, if I do those thing WITH a new body, the results would be even better. So far, I am doing just fine with my 8 year old 5D.

I've said this before. Modern cameras are quite good. You don't upgrade for IQ. You upgrade for features. As far as features go, my 5D is just fine. I am still looking for a reason to upgrade. That said, if I had $3,000 to blow, I'd have a 5D3.

This! The 5DMK3 isn't just about better IQ, it's about features, features, features. IQ means nothing if you can't capture the shot and the 5DMK3's features make it easier to capture the shot.




  
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Jun 30, 2013 07:22 |  #42
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Elusivesouls wrote in post #16077465 (external link)
This! The 5DMK3 isn't just about better IQ, it's about features, features, features. IQ means nothing if you can't capture the shot and the 5DMK3's features make it easier to capture the shot.

Exactly.

To Tommy1957 - 5D3 has features that makes you getting the shot easier, higher keeper rate and just generally more pleasant to use.

If you only look at charts and comparing the ISO performance it doesn't tell you the full story.


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Jun 30, 2013 07:55 |  #43

Fstop Blues wrote in post #16077314 (external link)
You might find this review helpful: http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=sX_I9KPPdWY (external link)
One of the better, objective reviews I've seen online. And the photographer actually owns both cameras, along with the 6d.

IMO, it's only worth upgrading if you find the focusing system of the 5D2 limiting to your photographic needs. But that's just my pocket's opinion.

Thanks, I just sat and watched the whole video, very good and I was surprised on image quality that the 6D outdated the 5DIII, it was pretty obvious on the screen. for me the ownside of 6D is that I prefer a solid feeling camera and the wheel on the back of my 5DII, cant see myself giving it up


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Jun 30, 2013 08:05 |  #44
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aladyforty wrote in post #16077545 (external link)
Thanks, I just sat and watched the whole video, very good and I was surprised on image quality that the 6D outdated the 5DIII, it was pretty obvious on the screen. for me the ownside of 6D is that I prefer a solid feeling camera and the wheel on the back of my 5DII, cant see myself giving it up

IQ and ISO performance is very good on 6D no doubt about that. But try shooting with a fast aperture lens such as your 50 1.4 @ f1.4 with outer non-crosstype point on the 6D and you'll see straight away why the 5D3 is worth the extra money.

5D3 has plenty other features, such as CF + SD slot (very useful for paid work), tougher body, better ergonomics, different AF mode (no stranger to you since you own a 7D) and scenarios to cater different situation, list goes on...


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Jun 30, 2013 12:49 |  #45

aladyforty wrote in post #16077545 (external link)
Thanks, I just sat and watched the whole video, very good and I was surprised on image quality that the 6D outdated the 5DIII, it was pretty obvious on the screen. for me the ownside of 6D is that I prefer a solid feeling camera and the wheel on the back of my 5DII, cant see myself giving it up

Emphasis mine. The 6D does have the wheel on the back. Just like the 60D & 7D. All of the X0D and XD bodies have the wheel on the back. You have to step down (excuse me, can't think of a better word) to a Rebel (XXD) to find a body without the rear-wheel. Perhaps you meant the little nubbin of a joystick. 6D doesn't have that.




  
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