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Trading to L lenses - advice needed!

 
andrei123
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Jul 02, 2013 15:33 |  #1

Hi guys and galz,


I currently have a Canon 60d with a 18-135 and a 24 mm 2.8 I hardly use.
I really fancy a 24-105L IS (colour, sharpness, etc) and a 100-400L for the length (Freud would have something to say here..:)).

The thing is someone offered me to trade the two lenses I have for either a 17-40 L they have or a 70-200 f4 L (non IS) and cover the other with cash. I feel like these 2 would be a good enough focal length coverage for me, vs the 24-105. The only issue I have is the lack of IS. What do you guys think?

Some representative photos for what I take: http://500px.com/andre​iblack (external link)


Hugely indebted for your advice!

Andrei




  
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Jul 02, 2013 15:36 |  #2

The 24-105 is not really a good choice for your body. Tamron SP (non-VC) 17-50/2.8 and a used EF 70-200/4 are the 2 zooms you want next, IMO.


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Jul 02, 2013 17:28 |  #3

Thanks Gene! Any other takes on this?




  
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Jul 02, 2013 18:18 |  #4

I see you have lots of outdoor shots. I think you would be very happy with the 70-200 f4 non IS. I love mine for outdoor shots and use a flash with it indoors. I have an 18-135 with IS, but I much prefer the 70-200. I can't advise about the 17-40.




  
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Jul 02, 2013 18:58 as a reply to  @ shuter113's post |  #5

shuter113 - thanks a lot for the message.

Anymore for me, please?




  
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Jul 02, 2013 19:55 |  #6

andrei123 wrote in post #16085668 (external link)
shuter113 - thanks a lot for the message.

Anymore for me, please?

I had a 70-200 f/4 non-IS and a 70-300 IS USM. Sold both to try the 100-400L. I do not regret it for a moment. I would like to have another 70-200 f/4 some day but would go IS next time.


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Jul 02, 2013 20:20 |  #7

IS for the longer FLs is important, imo. I am not a big fan of the Tamron 17-50, though I hold the highest respect for Gasrocks. :) i consider it an overpriced nifty fifty. ;) If you're going to spend a grand for a normal zoom, I'd say look at the 17-55 IS...


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Jul 02, 2013 20:40 |  #8

Looking at your 500px, I would get a 15-85.


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Jul 02, 2013 20:47 |  #9

The 24-105L is a great walk around lens for a full frame body, but there are better options for a crop sensor. The 17-40L is a good ultra wide angle lens for a full frame, and will work as a walk around on a crop, but once again there are better options.The Canon EFS 17-55mm f/2.8 IS, Canon EFS 15-85mm IS, Sigma 18-50mm OS, or Tamron 17-50mm are all great options, depending on your budget.


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Jul 02, 2013 23:48 |  #10

Personally for use on 60D, I'd prefer the EF-S 17-55/2.8 over the 17-40L. IS and a full stop faster... might be sharper corner to corner, too. It's not an L... but some great lenses aren't. If you don't need f2.8, the EF-S 15-85mm IS is a great walk-around lens.

I don't buy into the idea that 24-105 isn't a good choice for use on a crop camera. It depends upon what you are shooting and the focal lengths you need. Personally I would buy an inexpensive 28-135 instead (except you already have an 18-135), it isn't as well made or sealed as the L, but pretty much matches it in all other respects: USM/focus speed & precision, IS, close focusing ability, and perhaps the most important factor, image quality.

70-200/4 is a nice lens, but not really a whole lot longer than your 18-135. Only you can say if 70-200mm would be long enough. I use a 70-200 a lot on my crop cameras, but I also use a 300/4 and 300/2.8, both with and without a 1.4X teleconverter. The 100-400L is a versatile lens, I'm just not a big fan of push/pull zooms. There are some good alternatives: Sigma 120-400 OS and 150-500 OS are both considerably cheaper than the Canon. Both are more traditional zooms, with separate focus and zoom rings. At their longest focal lengths, they don't deliver quite as much contrast and color saturation as the Canon, but both of those factors are pretty easily dialed up in Photoshop or whatever you use for post-processing.

Frankly, on these longer lenses IS is awfully nice to have. Especially when using them on a crop camera. IS (or OS on the Sigmas) makes possible some shots you'd struggle to get without it. Something to think about.


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Jul 03, 2013 03:54 |  #11

Thank you all for the wide range of ideas, I'm distilling it now :) Still, if anyone wants to add their opinion... :)




  
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Jul 03, 2013 07:23 |  #12

if you are looking for IQ, as former owner of a 60D save your money on L glass, get a canon 10-22, a Tammy 28-75 and a long telephoto of your choice. the 10-22 will be the best possible UWA you can get on a crop, the tammy will outperform an older L zoom on a crop body. in the telephoto range is where to spend the money on L glass, a 70-200L variants are the best here.


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Jul 03, 2013 08:09 |  #13

andrei123 wrote in post #16085113 (external link)
Hi guys and galz,


I currently have a Canon 60d with a 18-135 and a 24 mm 2.8 I hardly use.
I really fancy a 24-105L IS (colour, sharpness, etc) and a 100-400L for the length (Freud would have something to say here..:)).

The thing is someone offered me to trade the two lenses I have for either a 17-40 L they have or a 70-200 f4 L (non IS) and cover the other with cash. I feel like these 2 would be a good enough focal length coverage for me, vs the 24-105. The only issue I have is the lack of IS. What do you guys think?

Some representative photos for what I take: http://500px.com/andre​iblack (external link)


Hugely indebted for your advice!

Andrei

I agree with some of the others, the Tamron 17-50 2.8 and Sigma 17-50 2.8 are better choices for crop models than the 17-40 and possibly the 24-105. I would hold off on this trade and eventually get the 70-200 with IS or the 100-400 if you need a longer lens for wildlife, sports, etc.




  
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Jul 03, 2013 13:33 |  #14

The 17-40/70-200 is a great combo. People tend to tout what they have in their bag, and also tend to think any lens without IS is worthless. Many many many fine photographs have been taken with lenses without IS, it's a matter of technique, IS is a great thing but it's only useful in certain situations. You gallery shows a lot of shots that would fit fine with the 17-40/70-200 combination. From what I've seen in your gallery a 24-105 would work great for what you shoot too. A 24-105/100-400 makes for a great grab and go combination that has a great range, and should work for you.

Since the advent of forums like this one, everyone thinks that everyone needs an UWA lens now. 17mm (27mm) was always considered a decent WA lens, until recently. Now anyone with a crop body thinks you need 16mm. If you think you want this combo, and the deal seems decent, go for it, from what I've seen in you gallery you should be very happy.


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Jul 03, 2013 13:57 |  #15

casaaviocar wrote in post #16087950 (external link)
Since the advent of forums like this one, everyone thinks that everyone needs an UWA lens now. 17mm (27mm) was always considered a decent WA lens, until recently. Now anyone with a crop body thinks you need 16mm.

16? There is only 1 standard zoom for crop that goes wider than 17 - the 15-85. The other full frame options such as the 16-35 II and Tokina 16-28 are more for UWA on FF. The reasoning behind people recommending other lenses than the 17-40 is that since Canon released it, many other better options for crop have been introduced. These options give more range or more aperture or both.


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