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Jul 03, 2013 21:22 |  #1

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, however, I was wondering if anyone knew if there was a lense protection device out there that isn't a hood.

Basically what I'm looking for is something that is like a filter, but is like a hard/safety glass or plastic that I can put on the end of the lense to keep it from being shot through by a paintball.

I've looked at the hoods and they would be ok for side protection, but I was wanting something for direct/head on protection..

Been looking on B&H but i must not be in the right area, or it doesnt exist :(


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Jul 03, 2013 21:23 |  #2

Hoya recently released an impact/shatter resistant UV filter, I would think that would be your best bet.


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Jul 03, 2013 21:24 |  #3

Scatterbrained wrote in post #16089226 (external link)
Hoya recently released an impact/shatter resistant UV filter, I would think that would be your best bet.

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Jul 03, 2013 21:25 as a reply to  @ paintcheck's post |  #4

I think even the anti-filter jihadists would give you a pass on this one :D!


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Jul 03, 2013 21:26 |  #5

ed rader wrote in post #16089232 (external link)
I think even the anti-filter jihadists would give you a pass on this one :D!

ha! not trying to offend anyone. I just don't want my gear broken if I can take reasonable steps to prevent it :)

Please don't get the pitch forks and torches!


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Jul 03, 2013 21:27 |  #6

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=cT6wBQR7iqE (external link)

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …C_77mm_Hoya_HD_​Clear.html (external link)


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Jul 03, 2013 21:31 |  #7

hmmm thats kinda nice.. the 77mm i'm assuming is the standard size for the 55-250mm lense?

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Jul 03, 2013 21:35 |  #8

The 55-250 takes a 58mm filter. You'd need a step-up (down?) ring to use the 77mm.


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Jul 03, 2013 22:47 |  #9

abhphotography wrote in post #16089235 (external link)
ha! not trying to offend anyone. I just don't want my gear broken if I can take reasonable steps to prevent it :)

Please don't get the pitch forks and torches!

I found a nasty scratch on the protective filter of my 24-70L II after my night climb on the bay bridge. sure glad it wasn't the front element :D.


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Jul 04, 2013 06:37 |  #10

ed rader wrote in post #16089232 (external link)
I think even the anti-filter jihadists would give you a pass on this one :D!

Ah, so you admit that we're not anti-'protective' filters through some instinctive aversion. Instead we are anti-'protective' filters unless necessary.

Yes, even I bought a Hoya HD. But only because it did seem as if it might actually protect the lens (unlike some that seem to shatter if stared at harshly). And then it's only to be used when shooting my friend galloping and jumping her horse - because it kicks up stones. Oh, and it's also very handy for getting images that demonstrate that even an expensive 'protective' filter can cause noticeable image degradation ;)


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Jul 04, 2013 07:21 as a reply to  @ hollis_f's post |  #11

The best protection for gear is a good bank account.

For paint ball just use a clear protection filter from Hoya or BW




  
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Jul 04, 2013 08:33 |  #12

auto-clicker wrote in post #16090226 (external link)
For paint ball just use a clear protection filter from Hoya or BW

We've seen here in the forum that standard UV filters can and do get smashed to smithereens when directly hit by paintballs. The only filter that I've seen which is likely to tolerate paintball hits is the Hoya HD filter Protector (external link). However, I still would not want a zoom lens hit head-on by a paintball because that force would be driven at the mechanism which moves the lens in and out and could cause internal damage in the lens.

A far better method to protect the camera/lens when on a paintball range would be to have the camera and lens in some sort of protective container (something like a soundproofing blimp or an underwater rig). That way, the impact wouldn't affect the camera or lens.

For ABH (the OP): The word lens only has one "e" in it.  :p


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Jul 04, 2013 12:28 |  #13

And a hood would help, too. WIth a deeper hood only the most directly head-on paintball shot might get to the protective filter. A wider hood would give less protection, but still would offer some. Photographing paintball and using a valuable lens, I'd use both... protection filter and hood.

A rigid underwater case would be ideal, but the good ones are quite expensive and even they might get damaged. It may be more sensible to rent one, if you can find a place that offers one to fit your particular camera and lens. However, most cases can't accomodate longer telephotos... and lens changes, even memory card or battery changes are a pain in the arse.

Oh, and one also has to consider the lenses being protected... What's it cost to replace an 18-55 or 75-300? Around $120 each? Is a $45 protection filter a good investment for either? Canon hood is another $25 or so (there are cheaper 3rd party clones) but would always be a good idea to have and use anyway. It would cost upwards of $300 or $400 to rent an underwater housing with a couple lens ports, so would be cheaper to replace both those lenses if they get damaged.

The most practical "protection" of all might be an insurance overrider covering the gear against damage, with no deductible.


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Jul 04, 2013 13:08 |  #14

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And a hood would help, too. WIth a deeper hood only the most directly head-on paintball shot might get to the protective filter. A wider hood would give less protection, but still would offer some. Photographing paintball and using a valuable lens, I'd use both... protection filter and hood.

A rigid underwater case would be ideal, but the good ones are quite expensive and even they might get damaged. It may be more sensible to rent one, if you can find a place that offers one to fit your particular camera and lens. However, most cases can't accomodate longer telephotos... and lens changes, even memory card or battery changes are a pain in the arse.

Oh, and one also has to consider the lenses being protected... What's it cost to replace an 18-55 or 75-300? Around $120 each? Is a $45 protection filter a good investment for either? Canon hood is another $25 or so (there are cheaper 3rd party clones) but would always be a good idea to have and use anyway. It would cost upwards of $300 or $400 to rent an underwater housing with a couple lens ports, so would be cheaper to replace both those lenses if they get damaged.

The most practical "protection" of all might be an insurance overrider covering the gear against damage, with no deductible.

another inflated figure for the sake of jihad :D!


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Jul 04, 2013 14:02 |  #15

SkipD wrote in post #16090353 (external link)
We've seen here in the forum that standard UV filters can and do get smashed to smithereens when directly hit by paintballs. The only filter that I've seen which is likely to tolerate paintball hits is the Hoya HD filter Protector (external link). However, I still would not want a zoom lens hit head-on by a paintball because that force would be driven at the mechanism which moves the lens in and out and could cause internal damage in the lens.

A far better method to protect the camera/lens when on a paintball range would be to have the camera and lens in some sort of protective container (something like a soundproofing blimp or an underwater rig. That way, the impact wouldn't affect the camera or lens.

For ABH (the OP): The word lens only has one "e" in it.  :p

Ha! thanks.. sometimes my fingers get in such a hurry that i don't pay attention to exactly what they are typing sometimes. so does this count as my only warning from the spelling ****'s? :lol:

I was thinking the hood and filter would be good protection, but I wasn't sure just how good the hoods really are. They look kinda flimsy. ha! I've seen some guys use a paintball box to cover their gear which is pretty ingenious but sometimes it's not always practical.

A good bank account sure is helpful, but i have too many expensive hobbies, my bank account screams for mercy every time i find a new one :(

amfoto1 wrote in post #16090983 (external link)
And a hood would help, too. WIth a deeper hood only the most directly head-on paintball shot might get to the protective filter. A wider hood would give less protection, but still would offer some. Photographing paintball and using a valuable lens, I'd use both... protection filter and hood.

A rigid underwater case would be ideal, but the good ones are quite expensive and even they might get damaged. It may be more sensible to rent one, if you can find a place that offers one to fit your particular camera and lens. However, most cases can't accomodate longer telephotos... and lens changes, even memory card or battery changes are a pain in the arse.

Oh, and one also has to consider the lenses being protected... What's it cost to replace an 18-55 or 75-300? Around $120 each? Is a $45 protection filter a good investment for either? Canon hood is another $25 or so (there are cheaper 3rd party clones) but would always be a good idea to have and use anyway. It would cost upwards of $300 or $400 to rent an underwater housing with a couple lens ports, so would be cheaper to replace both those lenses if they get damaged.

The most practical "protection" of all might be an insurance overrider covering the gear against damage, with no deductible.

I will be calling my agent tomorrow to inquire about a rider policy. The only lenses I have at this point are the 18-55 and the 55-250 both IS/AF. Rather cheap, but rather expensive too ya know?

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another inflated figure for the sake of jihad :D!

ha! be nice now.


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