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Jul 05, 2013 12:51 |  #616

Matrim33 wrote in post #16093939 (external link)
Canonwatch rumor mill claims 7D2 will be FF:

http://www.canonwatch.​com …e-entry-level-full-frame/ (external link)

Makes a little sense, why would Canon come out with 2 similar crops around the same time? Anybody buying?

Full frame? Doubtful.


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Jul 05, 2013 12:52 |  #617

cepaw wrote in post #16093666 (external link)
Am I the only person that thinks canon did a great job with this camera ? I have been looking to upgrade my t2i. The t3i,t4i, t5i did nothing for me. 60d as well. The 7d while certainly an upgrade was lacking features i liked on the newer rebels. swivil screen, touch screen,then add wifi.The 70d is an upgrade in so many ways at such a reasonable price I can't not get this camera. I will wait for more hands on reviews before I jump in and buy it but canon gets an A+ from me on this one.

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No, at the beginning of the thread it's mostly the people that get it. Then it seems to be dominated by the no matter what you do we hate it crowd. Pfff.

I am not getting the impression that there is much if any hate here. There are a lot of side conversations going on, but no real hate. I personally am not interested in buying the 70D because I already have a 7D, but I think a lot of the features on this camera are great and will only raise the bar for future camera's that I may be getting down the road.


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Jul 05, 2013 12:53 |  #618

7D to go from top of the line APS-C to bottom of the line FF?

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Jul 05, 2013 12:55 |  #619

Matrim33 wrote in post #16093939 (external link)
Canonwatch rumor mill claims 7D2 will be FF:

http://www.canonwatch.​com …e-entry-level-full-frame/ (external link)

Makes a little sense, why would Canon come out with 2 similar crops around the same time? Anybody buying?

That link is a year old before the 6D was announced.


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Jul 05, 2013 12:57 |  #620

LOL, I thought it was last month, sorry guys :-(


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Jul 05, 2013 13:00 |  #621

FEChariot wrote in post #16093979 (external link)
That link is a year old before the 6D was announced.

Bwaahaaahaaahaaaa!

It's great looking back at old rumours and just how far out they really were.


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Jul 05, 2013 13:02 |  #622

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Its when people insist on comparing the 7d with the 70d...which I don't quite understand....

I'm sort of in the opposite side of this, I fee that the comparison is quite reasonable, because, well , the comparison is actually reasonable! :)

This is the affordable XXd line, with some pretty upscale systems that compare well with it's older siblings. I'd give up some of the bits that the 7D has for the newer bits the 70D has.. positively.
I know I'm not every one, and I don't expect every one to agree with me on which bits are more important, .. my point is, to many, including myself, the 70D on paper would be my choice over the current 7D.

The 7D was the same way, it came along and blurred some seriously old and firm lines that had previously existed for many years in the Canon line up.
If you wanted solid AF for action, you HAD to get a 1D from 2001-the 7D release. No exceptions. Now the 7D is one of the action shooters first choice, and it has dominated the amateur bird and wildlife camera bags. Many chose it over the older 1D bodies by choice, not by finance. This was never the case before the 7D, where it was simply you had a 1D or you wish you did.

The 5D series has always been an "old line blurrer" as well. The first being, prior to the 5D if you wanted FF you had to fork over $8K! Then with the 5D2, prior to it if you wanted Video you needed a P&S or a camcorder. Then the 5D3, if you wanted FF AND top of the line AF, you had to pay $8K again.

I am always happy when the lines get blurred as it means more options, less compartmentalization, and more flexibility and choices.


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Jul 05, 2013 13:06 |  #623

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Hm... not true, unless I'm just reading you incorrectly. While recording video, one can use AF. It's just pathetically slow to achieve focus, and obviously without STM lenses, you would then record the noises by the focusing drive. (I just tested this out on my 7D.)

I was not aware that the 7d can focus while recording. I though that you had to stop recording, pull focus, then resume. I'll give it a go today.


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Jul 05, 2013 13:11 |  #624

Maybe I am completely alone on this, but is there anybody else who would buy a new DSLR w/out video? I never take videos with my DSLR and would rather save on weight and cost.

Reading through the reviews on the 70D, half or more of the talk is about video and focusing during. I'm all about the stills and get tired of all the video chatter.


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Jul 05, 2013 13:15 |  #625

Matrim33 wrote in post #16094023 (external link)
Maybe I am completely alone on this, but is there anybody else who would buy a new DSLR w/out video? I never take videos with my DSLR and would rather save on weight and cost.

Certainly, yes there are. I think the argument can be made though that once they invested in the R&D to be able to pull the video info OFF THE SAME SENSORs that we were already using, that there is little to no "additional cost". Really.
Certainly, it does not add weight, video was installed on tiny P&S camera for years without adding weight.


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Jul 05, 2013 13:19 |  #626

I would buy a dslr without video. I rarely shoot video. I agree any new camera the talk seems to go to video


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Jul 05, 2013 13:20 |  #627

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #16093997 (external link)
I'm sort of in the opposite side of this, I fee that the comparison is quite reasonable, because, well , the comparison is actually reasonable! :)

This is the affordable XXd line, with some pretty upscale systems that compare well with it's older siblings. I'd give up some of the bits that the 7D has for the newer bits the 70D has.. positively.
I know I'm not every one, and I don't expect every one to agree with me on which bits are more important, .. my point is, to many, including myself, the 70D on paper would be my choice over the current 7D...

I agree, comparing the two is very valid however, there are really two separate upgrade paths.

If I didn't already have the 7D and I was looking to upgrade i think that the 70D would be my preferred body as well as it pretty much matches performance and in some cases outperforms the 7D.

However, for those that already have the 7D, this upgrade is much less attractive especially if you are not into video or prefer shooting raw and processing your own images. There are few upgrades geared towards still shooters and the image quality especially for raw shooters may not be any different.


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Jul 05, 2013 13:23 |  #628

Mic and headphone jacks take a little space. And more buttons dedicated to video. Not sure how much processing power gets dedicated to STM. Anyway, if I could save 5% on cost and .01 ounce I'd be happy :-)

Then no talk about video when I'm reading up ;-)a


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Jul 05, 2013 13:25 |  #629

Matrim33 wrote in post #16094023 (external link)
Maybe I am completely alone on this, but is there anybody else who would buy a new DSLR w/out video? I never take videos with my DSLR and would rather save on weight and cost..

Having video available is nice and as pointed out, it adds little to the cost of the body. My main gripe is that nearly all of the innovation is going into video and the still shooters especially those shooting raw, are being totally ignored.

I'm anxiously awaiting some raw sample images but from what Canon themselves are stating, the 70D will have raw performance about equal to the 60D. That means that there has not been an improvement to the basic image quality since the 7D first came out 4 years ago and if the 7DII uses this same chip, the 7DII will have no still image improvement over the 7D for those that prefer raw images and not in-camera processed jpeg images.


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Jul 05, 2013 13:26 |  #630

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Having video available is nice and as pointed out, it adds little to the cost of the body. My main gripe is that nearly all of the innovation is going into video and the still shooters especially those shooting raw, are being totally ignored.

I'm anxiously awaiting some raw sample images but from what Canon themselves are stating, the 70D will have raw performance about equal to the 60D. That means that there has not been an improvement to the basic image quality since the 7D first came out 4 years ago and if the 7DII uses this same chip, the 7DII will have no still image improvement over the 7D for those that prefer raw images and not in-camera processed jpeg images.

Preach on!


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