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Jul 05, 2013 16:07 |  #1

I'm doing a wedding for a friend. Never done one before, don't have an external flash, though looking for dirt cheap on amazon. I have a 600D with 18-55 non IS kit lens, Tammy 28-80, Siggy 70-210 (old and error prone) and a 75-300iii non IS, two tripods and a Fuji HS20 EXR with a Luxon flashgun (non TTL) and 4 58mm filters, UV, CPL, FLD & ND 4.
The weddings in Scotland, so a pre sevice visit isn't possible. Any advice/shot lists etc is greatfully appreciated.


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Jul 05, 2013 16:17 |  #2

Grrrrr.. Okay, you need an ETTL flash first off. Look at the YN line for one of the ETTL models within the range that will fit your budget. Can you get your hands on a second body? Backups are essential for wedding work. Just get the flash and practice the heck out of using it between now and then. Learn how to bounce, and make yourself a bounce card or get a rogue flashbender.




  
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Jul 05, 2013 16:34 |  #3

My advice is to learn how to get a properly exposed photograph and to know the factors that make a good portrait. And, of course, know how to operate your camera without thinking.

I am guessing that you are doing this for free and there is no professional photographer. Is that correct?




  
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Jul 06, 2013 05:05 |  #4

@ chris. That was correct. Today they announced they've got a photographer for free as he's building up a portfolio. :-(


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Jul 07, 2013 10:42 |  #5

Yeah, don't even bother going without an external flash. I just did my first Indian engagement yesterday and it shows... I had no external flash nor probes. Luckily my hubby had an external flash on his 5D so he shot some decent ones.


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Jul 08, 2013 19:45 |  #6

Colin Glover wrote in post #16095651 (external link)
Today they announced they've got a photographer for free as he's building up a portfolio. :-(


What's with the :-( ? It should be more like :D :cool: . Shooting weddings is not for the faint of heart, nor for those without a lot of experience at it (at least if you want to stay on good terms with the bride if she's already your friend). No matter how well you think you know them, brides are never satisfied. I got talked into doing a wedding for a friend one time, despite my protestations that I wasn't qualified. NEVER AGAIN.




  
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Jul 09, 2013 08:21 |  #7

I think he's got the :( because the couple has signed another photographer.

This thread is relevant to my interests though, as my brother-in-law has asked me to shoot his wedding. This is a 2nd marriage for both of them, so it's going to be fairly casual. Shooting for free, and they want me to spend most of my time as a guest as well. I need to get over this thought that I suck at portraits (sports guy). Posing and composition challenged -- but I've asked them to get me some links to examples they like.

I'm bringing both bodies, and an umbrella stand for portraits. I might borrow a 2nd flash...

This list was my starting point. I've found a few helpful blogs too:
http://digital-photography-school.com …eur-wedding-photographers (external link)
http://www.rokkorfiles​.com/Wedding101-page1.html (external link)


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Jul 09, 2013 13:28 |  #8

waterrockets wrote in post #16104330 (external link)
I think he's got the :( because the couple has signed another photographer.

This thread is relevant to my interests though, as my brother-in-law has asked me to shoot his wedding. This is a 2nd marriage for both of them, so it's going to be fairly casual. Shooting for free, and they want me to spend most of my time as a guest as well. I need to get over this thought that I suck at portraits (sports guy). Posing and composition challenged -- but I've asked them to get me some links to examples they like.

I'm bringing both bodies, and an umbrella stand for portraits. I might borrow a 2nd flash...

This list was my starting point. I've found a few helpful blogs too:
http://digital-photography-school.com …eur-wedding-photographers (external link)
http://www.rokkorfiles​.com/Wedding101-page1.html (external link)

Spot on. Was lovin the Idea of doing it. The Fuji was/is my second body. Apparantly it's an arty photographer doing it nothing to build up a portfolio. I don't get that bit. Sure offer a discount, but doing it for free..........? Either he's way way out as in off the wall type images, or I'm missing the point.


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Jul 09, 2013 13:28 |  #9

Colin Glover wrote in post #16095651 (external link)
@ chris. That was correct. Today they announced they've got a photographer for free as he's building up a portfolio. :-(

Really, you should be happy. The equipment you have will not be suitable for the shooting conditions you will be encountering at a wedding. This will let you be able to be there as a guest and enjoy the wedding. I just hope that this "free" photographer is going to provide good images for them.


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Jul 11, 2013 12:58 |  #10

If you're still taking your camera, make sure to coordinate with the hired guy early in the day (or in advance, if they'll give you his contact info) so you're not stepping on his toes or getting in his way.


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Jul 13, 2013 16:59 |  #11

Colin Glover wrote in post #16105270 (external link)
Spot on. Was lovin the Idea of doing it. The Fuji was/is my second body. Apparantly it's an arty photographer doing it nothing to build up a portfolio. I don't get that bit. Sure offer a discount, but doing it for free..........? Either he's way way out as in off the wall type images, or I'm missing the point.

It's about the best advice I'd give someone shooting their first, shoot for free and keep expectations low.

There was a recent couple in the UK went with a student photographer who took £100 to cover expenses ( she was still apparently out of pocket on the deal) and the couple were so unhappy with the photos that they threatened to sue for a reshoot. IMHO they'd have no chance of any compensation if the photographer isn't paid anything.


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Jul 16, 2013 12:32 |  #12

Just to update you all. Wedding came and went well. I was second shooter. The 'Official' guy is an accountant come p/t street photographer who doesn't do posed shots. He makes and sells photobooks. He's sold about 250 so he says, and his last one was the Thatcher funeral. He got photographers rights. After the ceremony of which he sold 30. He uses an X-Pro 1 with all 3 X mount primes. (Fantastic OVF but fixed, not zoom). I had to order/arrange some posed shots but the couple wern't bothered too much about big group photos.I got plenty of nice shots. I got some nice ones including a couple of 'Kate Winslet' Titanic ones and some formal and informal ones. I took over 450 shots and will post a link to FB for a few examples.
What surprised me was the other guys lack of charisma. He wants to break into weddings, but my wife who is usually spot on thinks he hasn't got the charisma to succed. He's a nice guy but didn't order a single shot or suggest any. I suggested he needed to order ppl for poses to succeeed. Love the guy as we got on well together and followed my lead a lot. Hope to see his shots, but I doubt it, as I think he won't want them sharing due to protecting his copyright.
Overall I enjoyed the experience and learnt a heck of a lot.


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Jul 16, 2013 21:13 |  #13

Colin Glover wrote in post #16125424 (external link)
I got some nice ones including a couple of 'Kate Winslet' Titanic ones...

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Jul 17, 2013 12:36 |  #14

^ I think he is referring to the style of the image.


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Jul 18, 2013 18:02 |  #15

:lol:I was reffering to the pose. There was a wooden pirate ship climbing frame there and we mimicked THE pose on the bow with the happy couple.


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