I should first say that I'm really glad for both you and the couple that there was a professional photographer shooting and that you didn't enter into a situation where the couple were depending on your shots. It's far better to find out what you don't know / don't have in terms of equipment in this situation rather than a wedding you're shooting solo.
You may find yourself less 'out of your element' when you're the lead photographer of the event / wedding. Normally when you are the lead, you would be consulting with the couple about exactly what would happen, so there really wouldn't be so many surprises about, e.g., whether or not the bride is going outside.
'Poor light' is usually the most ideal lighting circumstances for anyone who is able to create light with flashes / strobes (is this what you mean by 'probe' ?). If you are depending solely on the light that is occurring at the venue for a wedding or event, you will find yourself in serious serious trouble, as I suspect you are beginning to learn.
Turning up the lights is not a good solution. Not only does it make for a less atmospheric event for people (who wants to party with supermarket fluourescent lighting ?), but it makes more difficult your ability to create shots that 'show' the darkness, that show that atmosphere.
Instead of worrying that the main photographer got the position for getting the 'best shots', I'd focus on elements that he can't even see. E.g., if the couple is his focus at that moment, grab candids of the guests whose focus will also be on them. You can get shots that are equally good if not better than his. Moreover, if you have the main photographer getting the groups, why waste your time getting even more of them ? You should be roaming around getting shots of the guests. Also--did you not talk with the couple about what your responsibilities were ? Did this include getting these group shots ?
When I hear 'my photography style is more photojournalistic' I often think I hear 'I'm beginning in photography and am passive and unable to get control of the scene and don't know how to pose people'. This may not refer to you, but just consider it. Consider it like you might consider the phrase 'natural light photographer'.
It's possible that you're not holding the lens right--do you hold under the lens with your left hand when shooting ? I just shot a 9 hour wedding last night with a 70-200 on my camera a significant part of the night, and my hands feel okay. My whole body, on the other hand, does feel wiped out--so you're definitely not alone here ! I hope you ate well--not eating, getting enough water can lead to serious fatigue.
Again, I'm guessing by 'probes' you mean 'strobes ?'. I don't use strobes. I use 2 flashes, one on-camera, one off. I also don't use softboxes and do fairly well with my setup.
Tungsten light IS natural light in a sense. It's the ambient you have to deal with for most weddings. You need to be able to accommodate the situation in which the bride doesn't want to go outside.
By '500' flash, I think you mean '580ex' ? I happen to use two 430ex's which suggests one doesn't absolutely need 580's to do weddings (though I'll eventually upgrade). I found mine for $150-$180 used. I also have an old vivitar that is solid as a rock.
For those circle dances I very often shoot wide, prefocus, lift the camera above my head and grab 3 shots for every 1 I hope will work--Ie., it will involve a little bit of luck in terms of exactly what the composition will look like, what was going on at that split second. I'm tall--6'2". If I were shorter than 5'8" or so, I'd either be in a chair or in the centre.
alexdesign wrote in post #16098742
Yesterday I went to my very first mass event (an Indian engagement party with 200+ people). I am taking good photographs in natural light but..I was thrown out of my "element" when the (soon bride to be) refused to go outside to take some photographs.
We were confined to one huge room with very poor (horrible) lightening due to D.J. was controlling the light and when I asked them to turn up the light, they said it was the best they could do.
There was another photographer the family had invited who was semi pro, I haven't seen his work but he had only one body (Nikon) with very powerful external flash. The guy was always taking the best spots and since he was also Hindu, he spoke to them on native language and pretty much made them pose as he wanted them to pose. When I'd come to where he was standing, the group would disassemble right away and they'd go their separate ways.
My photography style is more of photo journalistic. I don't like when people pose. I much rather snap pictures when they don't expect me or don't expect me to be there but without an external flash (other one that was built in in my Canon Rebel 2Ti camera) I took some photos but they aren't what I was hoping to get due to horrible light in room.
My hubby had his 5D with him with an external flash and took some decent shots but then his flash died in mid event and he had to run to a store to buy a pack of batteries
Live and learn.
I was shooting with my 100mm canon lens and since I was holding the lens for 5+ hours, my hand is hurting and by the end of an event I got exhausted. So exhausted that when we got home I just undressed, dropped on my bed and was out..
My questions are : Now I know not to even bother going to an event without powerful external flash or at least 3 probes with soft boxes. The probe alone cost around $300 each puls each soft box is $150 for each probe... I don't have any paying clients and my monthly income is enough to pay just the bills. How did you get started in wedding photography? What do you do when a bride refuses to get natural light poses/portraits etc? What flash are you using? 500? I have 420 one and seems it wasn't very powerful in that huge room.
During the dancing/party event everyone got into medium size tight circle and all I could shoot were backs of people. I wasn't shooting but was trying to lift up my camera and point it down to shoot "inside" the circle and it was like click "shutter" and hope fot he best... what do you do in such situations? A large ladder would've been nice but then there's a risk of falling of the ladder and breaking something... What do you do in such situations?