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Alt 50mm lenses to try?

 
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Jul 09, 2013 06:50 |  #1

I've got a Canon 50/1.4 and have used the nifty fifty, too.

I find I very much like 50mm, but am thinking I'd like to try some alt 50mm gear.

Any suggestions? I see a Zeiss 50mm 2.0 macro. That's pretty fast (I rarely shoot my 50/1.4 below 2.0 anyway) and I like close-in work.

I see there's also a Zeiss 50/1.4 Planar. Then of course there's the Sigma 50/1.4, but I've never been lucky in the Sigma lottery.

There's also a CV 40/2 pancake.

Any others I should consider?

I'd be interested in interesting bokeh, very smooth mf ring (if the lens isn't supporting AF), and the macro option is nice.


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Jul 09, 2013 07:17 |  #2
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I have used/owned 50 1.8, 50 1.4, 50L in the past and currently own Sigma 50 and Zeiss 50 MP.

Zeiss 50 1.4 is junk, so forget that.

If you don't mind MF, Zeiss 50 MP is excellent. I find the MF ring rather stiff as in heavy to turn but smooth nonetheless.

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Jul 09, 2013 07:29 |  #3

Maybe the Canon STM 40mm pancake ? Focuses close even it couldnt be qualified as macro; and is tack sharp at any aperture. Not the same budget as a Zeiss 50mm MP!

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Jul 09, 2013 07:40 |  #4

titi_67207 wrote in post #16104215 (external link)
Maybe the Canon STM 40mm pancake ? Focuses close even it couldnt be qualified as macro; and is tack sharp at any aperture. Not the same budget as a Zeiss 50mm MP!

Titi

good thinking. it may not be 50mm FL but it's an amazing lens and my personally most used :). Another lens I can recommend that's a little long is the M42 Super Takumar 55mm 1.8. It has some of the nicest bokeh I've ever seen and it's very sharp even wide open


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Jul 09, 2013 07:50 |  #5

And now for something completely different!

How about the TS-E 45 f/2.8?


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Jul 09, 2013 08:00 |  #6

There are countless old MF 50's that can be adapted to EF mount.

I really like the Helios 44's, CZJ pancolar and Volna 9.

You say you're interested in bokeh; the Helios 44's have swirly bokeh, and the Volna 9 has an odd aperture ring that changes from round - star - hexagon.


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Jul 09, 2013 08:03 |  #7

Minolta Rokkor 58mm f/1.2 (external link) - need mount conversion or such for use with Canon EOS - probably infinity problem on EOS 5D.
But very big bokeh :-) And it is a very nice lens, probably on par with the Canon Ef 50/1.0 and 1.2 L lenses. No aspherical lenses, so no onion bokeh risk.

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Meyer Domiplan 50mm/2.8 - very special bokeh wideopen - nearly like its big sister Meyer Trioplan 100 (external link).

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Jul 09, 2013 08:04 as a reply to  @ icacphotography's post |  #8

Other than the ones you mentioned, there is also the Canon 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro. It is very sharp. The F motor sounds similar to the 50mm f/1.8. I've found it does better in low light than the 50mm f/1.8. But it is only f/2.5, and for a true macro it only goes to half life-size. Other than the 40mm STM, this would be the least expensive choice mentioned.

For faster than this f/2.5 and the f/2.8 others have mentioned. Then there are other brand 50mm lenses that can use adapters to mount to Canon. I prefer not to use manual focus lenses, so I can't help you here. (Sirrith mentioned this while I was typing)

You never really mentioned a budget, but you did mention the Zeiss, so there is also that 50L!


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Jul 09, 2013 08:08 |  #9

Don't forget to consider the Nikon 50 f/1.2 AI-S


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Jul 09, 2013 08:16 |  #10

The MF ring on the CV 40mm Ultron SL II is very smooth. Canon's 40mm wasn't introduced when I bought mine. I now own the Canon too but I'm not as satisfied with it as I am the CV. I'm probably going to sell the Canon soon.


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Jul 09, 2013 09:32 |  #11

May be Zeiss 50 1.4 is junk for some....
For practical guys, who judge lens by the pictures it takes, it has nothing wrong compare to F2 macro.
1,4 is sharp enough at f2 and less. It is not so big and heavy. Doesn't have this wierd hobot as macro has. And you don't pay extra for macro, which isn't macro, but just a close up.
Zeiss 50 1,4 T* is first class lens in terms of colors rendering, 3D and micro contrast is unique.
It is usable between 1.4 and 2. Old versions seems to be sharper on wide apertures.

Also If you like 50mm on DSLR and want to use it in full advantage here is 50L.
Not as saturated as Zeiss in colors, but gives much more keepers.


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Jul 09, 2013 11:14 |  #12

kin2son wrote in post #16104199 (external link)
Zeiss 50 1.4 is junk, so forget that.

WoW.. thats a bold statement.
To OP. Look at SeattleSpeedster 's images in Manual Focus Lense sample thread to see counter statement.


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Jul 09, 2013 11:38 |  #13

ZE 50/1.4 is not outstanding, probably not worth the money. Look at my gear ist for some great 50 or so lenses. Gene


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Jul 09, 2013 11:47 as a reply to  @ gasrocks's post |  #14

Why no love for the Zeiss 1,4? Admittedly I've never tried the 50mp so cant compare to that, but tried lots of other 50's and the Zeiss 1,4 and the 50L are my favorites, that's why I have both :).


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Jul 09, 2013 11:49 |  #15

There's always the Zuiko 50 1.8 and Zuiko 50 1.4, also the Super-Takumar 50 1.4, all for ~$100 or less.


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