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Jul 08, 2013 18:38 |  #76

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I know nothing of the D60. That 28-105 f/3.4-4.5 was a great lens. I am sorry I sold it. sniff-sniff

It's a really good budget lens... Bought mine off ebay for 35 dollars, and is nice and sharp! They usually aren't that cheap, but if you wait, the deal will come back around.


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Jul 08, 2013 18:38 |  #77

Tommy1957 wrote in post #16102951 (external link)
I know nothing of the D60. That 28-105 f/3.4-4.5 was a great lens. I am sorry I sold it. sniff-sniff

The D60 was, I believe, Canon's second "real" digital camera geared at the pro market, it was 6.5 MP, about the lens, I know, the camera got dropped out of the car on a trip, landed on it's back, never hurt the camera, but it messed up the focusing helix in the lens, I used it for a long time after that, then sold it to my son and he is still using it.


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Jul 08, 2013 18:42 |  #78

davidc502 wrote in post #16102968 (external link)
It's a really good budget lens... Bought mine off ebay for 35 dollars, and is nice and sharp! They usually aren't that cheap, but if you wait, the deal will come back around.

From what I understand they made two models of this lens, the first were made in Japan, the second were made in Tiwan, the first were supposed to be the best.


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Jul 08, 2013 18:48 |  #79

TLMair wrote in post #16102976 (external link)
From what I understand they made two models of this lens, the first were made in Japan, the second were made in Tiwan, the first were supposed to be the best.

That's what I understand to be true as well. However, the one's made in Tiwan theoretically had a little bit better bokeh because they went from 5 to 7 blade diaphragm.


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Jul 09, 2013 13:57 |  #80

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I see very few razor-thin DOF portraits that would not be improved a bit, simply by stopping down. I don't do 'sitting' portraits, but I do photograph people. I much prefer f/5.6 on my 60D and f/8 on my 5D for head- or head/shoulders shots. They just look better, IMHO. I can control background by positioning, framing, focal length and distance.

As far as apsc vs ff goes. I am pretty sure that with modern cameras it doesn't matter a whole lot unless you are printing much larger than 20"x30".

And actually this gives a slight advantage to a crop camera in a traditional portrait situation. Because you can shoot from further away with less magnification it lets you shoot with wider apertures and still have the entire subject in focus without worrying about them shifting an inch or to closer to or further from the camera. The same goes for any subject that is moving actually so working with a regular model in fashion and any sports, kids, or pet photos would benefit from this as well.

Sure, you can shoot higher ISO with a full frame but then depending on the light and the subject, you would HAVE to shoot the higher ISO because you can't shoot wide-open without limiting your DOF too much.

Now I'm not arguing that crop is better than FF. But what I'm saying is that the supposed advantages of a FF aren't as large as many assume and in many situations the differences can work against you. To really choose between the two you have to take a good look at what it is you want to shoot and understand the differences and how they may help or hinder the shots. Ideally you would own at least one of each. :-)

Oh, and I print 24x36 all the time with no problems. Usually prints that size have a viewing distance of a few feet and you can't really tell the difference unless you are right up on it. Here, Megapixels start to play a factor. An 18MP FF and an 18MP crop will have the same pixel density and should be nearly identical except where noise might be concerned on higher ISOs and assuming your glass is good enough to resolve 18MP just as sharp on a crop sensor. You can get away with slightly lower quality glass on a FF because the pixels are further apart.


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Jul 09, 2013 17:07 |  #81

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Jul 09, 2013 18:32 |  #82

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Jul 09, 2013 20:49 as a reply to  @ kailay's post |  #83

I hadn't seen this thread before.... Here are two from the last month.

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Jul 09, 2013 21:09 |  #84

A couple of mine -- 60D with Canon 70-200mm f2.8 II

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Jul 10, 2013 04:18 as a reply to  @ CJCMarquez's post |  #85

In most situations a crop will do just as well but I think FF excels in subject separation. Yes, you can get razor thin DOF on subjects face but that is rarely the desired result. Taking a wider shot while still having good background separation is where crop might fall short.

By the way I'm yet to take my first full frame shot. I've only used crop cameras before and I have these horrible voices in my head whispering. One of them commands me to spend all my money on a FF camera while the other suggests to shoot pictures rather than think about gear :D


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Jul 10, 2013 06:04 |  #86

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In most situations a crop will do just as well but I think FF excels in subject separation. Yes, you can get razor thin DOF on subjects face but that is rarely the desired result. Taking a wider shot while still having good background separation is where crop might fall short.

By the way I'm yet to take my first full frame shot. I've only used crop cameras before and I have these horrible voices in my head whispering. One of them commands me to spend all my money on a FF camera while the other suggests to shoot pictures rather than think about gear :D

Listen to both voices. Spend all your money, on a FF camera. Then shoot with both FF and Crop and don't worry anymore about gear.

That'll be $50 for the psychiatric consultation. Thank you. :lol:




  
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Jul 10, 2013 10:11 |  #87

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Listen to both voices. Spend all your money, on a FF camera. Then shoot with both FF and Crop and don't worry anymore about gear.

That'll be $50 for the psychiatric consultation. Thank you. :lol:

Well that was expensive :D
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Jul 11, 2013 15:25 as a reply to  @ marsaz's post |  #88

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Jul 12, 2013 06:21 |  #89

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Jul 12, 2013 08:27 as a reply to  @ kailay's post |  #90

I'll contribute :)

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