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Need your opinion - Sigma 85 or 135L?

 
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Jul 10, 2013 04:38 |  #76

kin2son wrote in post #16107081 (external link)
I think I have a good copy :p

Still at work atm...therefore these are all in camera JPEG transferred directly to my computer from my eye-fi card, so no sharpening or NR.

All shot in al servo, ISO400, 1/125s and wide open.

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Can't complain right? Oh btw, it requires 0 MA on my 5D3 body ;)

geez...I dunno man...it's producing sharp images and focus is on target...being a sigma lens that's clearly defective :-/


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Jul 10, 2013 08:18 |  #77

Did you looked for the oil by shining blue laser light into the lens?:)


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Jul 10, 2013 09:35 |  #78

bobbyz wrote in post #16107426 (external link)
Did you looked for the oil by shining blue laser light into the lens?:)

ahahahaha


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Jul 10, 2013 11:10 |  #79

kin2son wrote in post #16107081 (external link)
All shot in al servo, ISO400, 1/125s and wide open.

Some people eat some weird things in the world - at least weird to me. Is that why you needed servo on the noodles? :wink:


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Jul 10, 2013 11:18 |  #80

FEChariot wrote in post #16107867 (external link)
Some people eat some weird things in the world - at least weird to me. Is that why you needed servo on the noodles? :wink:

BBAF + permanant servo is how a lot of folks shoot.


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Jul 10, 2013 16:45 |  #81
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FEChariot wrote in post #16107867 (external link)
Some people eat some weird things in the world - at least weird to me. Is that why you needed servo on the noodles? :wink:

I did also try in one shot and it's about the same.

My camera is on servo all the time. There was a recent thread on the camera forum about what mode to use and most agree that for recent body it shouldn't make any difference.

And yes I have back button set up to stop AF, but never really find the need to use it even for static subject.


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Jul 10, 2013 18:21 |  #82

I bought the 135L while in Sydney earlier this week, took a heap of shots yesterday, got home late last night to check them out, I'm wishing I bought the Sigma.
But I will reserve making judgement until I test an MA, most my shots missed focus. Many soft, could be camera shake etc...
Oh we'll, I will get the Sigma also, just hanging out for the Art.

But yours looks fantastic.... And I hate being patient :)


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Jul 10, 2013 18:40 |  #83

DamianOz wrote in post #16109023 (external link)
I bought the 135L while in Sydney earlier this week, took a heap of shots yesterday, got home late last night to check them out, I'm wishing I bought the Sigma.
But I will reserve making judgement until I test an MA, most my shots missed focus. Many soft, could be camera shake etc...
Oh we'll, I will get the Sigma also, just hanging out for the Art.

But yours looks fantastic.... And I hate being patient :)

First time I bought 135L from forum member here I wasn't impressed. I think the lens was too soft and no better than say 85mm f1.8. At the time my bodies (1dmk2 and 5dc) had no MA. The next 135L I bough (here also) was much better.


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Jul 10, 2013 19:01 |  #84

kin2son wrote in post #16108794 (external link)
I did also try in one shot and it's about the same.

Interesting, but you have a 5D3. I see better performance on my 7D when I change from one shot and servo depending on the subject.


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Jul 10, 2013 19:21 |  #85
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DamianOz wrote in post #16109023 (external link)
But I will reserve making judgement until I test an MA, most my shots missed focus. Many soft, could be camera shake etc...
Oh we'll, I will get the Sigma also, just hanging out for the Art.

But yours looks fantastic.... And I hate being patient :)

I'd love the Art version too, but tbh the sharpness wide open is very good already even compared to my Sigma 35, maybe just a lil softer.

They are better off releasing 50 Art or 135 1.8 OS first before updating the 85 :p

When I had my 135L I find it extremely hard to hand hold as well. 1/200s is probably the minimum I'd go just to be on the safe side....

I'm happy with my purchase. $700 AUD for local stock is a steal ;) that's like $640 USD.


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Jul 10, 2013 21:14 |  #86

kin2son wrote in post #16109216 (external link)
I'm happy with my purchase. $700 AUD for local stock is a steal ;) that's like $640 USD.

yea we are surprisingly competitive when it comes to sigma lens pricing


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Jul 10, 2013 21:18 |  #87

That's great news Kinson. Can't wait to see some family shots this weekend.
Damian, I dread reading comments like yours - makes me NOT want to buy the lens now.


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Now what prime should i get with the 7d mark ii?...

  
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Jul 10, 2013 22:06 |  #88
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wisdom2thewise wrote in post #16109489 (external link)
That's great news Kinson. Can't wait to see some family shots this weekend.
Damian, I dread reading comments like yours - makes me NOT want to buy the lens now.

Haha you bet! Heading to the blue mountains this weekend ;)

Tbh 135L is a great lens too, thus this thread. I know people like to use it for low light indoor situation, personally I find it most effective for outdoor when there's plenty of light for the 3D pop with fast ss to avoid camera shake.

As soon as the light gets low, it's hard to handheld and/or you have to bump ISO which makes the result less ideal anyway.


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Jul 11, 2013 10:02 |  #89

I took a few shots today on the 6D. (AFMA +10) :O
As Kin2son has posted, 1/200s or faster shutter is the key to eliminate shake, I had been shooting at 1/125 - 1/160 yesterday, which explains a lot of the problem.
The lens is quite sharp, but its not close to my S35. I don't see it being any sharper than my 70-200 or 120-300.

The reason I bought it was to give me a lighter, smaller lens to carry than the zoom. The isolation of f/2 is good, but IMO (limited experience) this lens needs good light, in lesser light the zoom will kill it, other than weight/size the zoom will handle slower speeds and light situations better.

Would I recommend the 135L.. sure, its not a bad lens. (many people have told me its their favourite L lens, and I can see why, but.....)
Is it my favourite lens... no, my S35 still hold this position.
Is it better than a S85... not sure, I think 85 f/1.4 would be a more usable lens, but the trio would be a great set, which is my intent. If I could only have one, I think the S85 would be my choice.


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Jul 11, 2013 16:05 |  #90

What type of method did you use to MA your lens?


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