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Any convincing 85 1.2L II vs 85 1.8 comparison pics to buy the L ?

 
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Jul 15, 2013 08:50 |  #31

The 1.2 is exactly 1580.00 better! :) I have had both and the 1.2 is in a different class. To me, it is magic. I do use it for street, events etc. with no problems at all. The only time I find the focus speed an issue is when the lens has to rack from near all the way to infinity. That does not happen very often.


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Jul 15, 2013 10:45 as a reply to  @ post 16120642 |  #32

Here are some actual pictures comparing the 2. No PP other than the default raw conversion in LR. I tried to match exposure levels as much as possible in camera.

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Jul 15, 2013 10:53 |  #33

^^^ Thanks.

Unless I am color blind I don't see color differences.


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Jul 15, 2013 10:56 |  #34

i also see no difference in the pics. Im guessing that under optimum lighting conditions, the difference would be more obvious.


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Jul 15, 2013 11:01 as a reply to  @ bobbyz's post |  #35

About the color, the 85 1.8 will match the 85L color in certain situation the same way the 50 1.4 will match the 50L color sometimes but this is only under certain type of light, it is not all the time. I've had and used extensively both lenses and the 85 1.8 does produce less saturated, less pleasing colors overall (no, you can't compensate for that in PP). So the 85L definitely has an edge in that department if you want consistently the richest colors.


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Jul 15, 2013 11:09 |  #36

pixel_junkie wrote in post #16122065 (external link)
About the color, the 85 1.8 will match the 85L color in certain situation the same way the 50 1.4 will match the 50L color sometimes but this is only under certain type of light, it is not all the time. I've had and used extensively both lenses and the 85 1.8 does produce less saturated, less pleasing colors overall (no, you can't compensate for that in PP). So the 85L definitely has an edge in that department if you want consistently the richest colors.

I am curious whether anyone can explain this phenomenon? If two lenses, under certain lighting conditions, can produce images that appear the same color-saturation-wise, what causes the two lenses to not produce similar color saturation in other situations?

Is it a case of part of the color spectrum being less efficient in one lens vs the other, and if that part of the spectrum is not prominent in the image the differences appear negligible?

Or is it a case that the lesser lens (the 1.8 in this case) doesn't have as much color saturation across the whole spectrum, but if the scene has lots of grays/midtones/browns then it can look similar enough to the better lens?

Just trying to wrap my head around this particular comment, that seems to be a common differentiator for many L primes.

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Jul 15, 2013 11:10 |  #37

mitchrapp wrote in post #16122025 (external link)
Here are some actual pictures comparing the 2. No PP other than the default raw conversion in LR. I tried to match exposure levels as much as possible in camera.

85L at 1.2


85L at 1.8


85 1.8 at 1.8

how far away is the background? thanks for samples, always flirted with the idea of the 85 1.2, even though got really good results from the 1.8.


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Jul 15, 2013 11:27 |  #38

to me the picture comparison (above) are not £1500 apart!




  
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Jul 15, 2013 11:40 |  #39

shinksma wrote in post #16122077 (external link)
I am curious whether anyone can explain this phenomenon? If two lenses, under certain lighting conditions, can produce images that appear the same color-saturation-wise, what causes the two lenses to not produce similar color saturation in other situations?

Is it a case of part of the color spectrum being less efficient in one lens vs the other, and if that part of the spectrum is not prominent in the image the differences appear negligible?

Or is it a case that the lesser lens (the 1.8 in this case) doesn't have as much color saturation across the whole spectrum, but if the scene has lots of grays/midtones/browns then it can look similar enough to the better lens?

Just trying to wrap my head around this particular comment, that seems to be a common differentiator for many L primes.

shinksma

I'd think it goes back to 'each lens has a specific character'

its said over and over again between the 50 1.4, 1.4, sigma versions, zeiss versions, etc.

technically it is all the same, 85mm at whatever aperture - but the combination of lens elements will cause the slight difference. probably not the answer you've been looking for, but thats my take on it.


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Jul 15, 2013 11:44 |  #40

Charlie wrote in post #16122079 (external link)
how far away is the background? thanks for samples, always flirted with the idea of the 85 1.2, even though got really good results from the 1.8.

Around 17 ft.




  
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Jul 15, 2013 11:49 |  #41

If you want the L, I think you will never be truly satisfied until you at least try it. Then you can see for yourself if it is worth the extra money.




  
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Jul 15, 2013 11:58 |  #42

mitchrapp wrote in post #16122025 (external link)
Here are some actual pictures comparing the 2. No PP other than the default raw conversion in LR. I tried to match exposure levels as much as possible in camera.

85L at 1.2

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Thanks for the photos
now i knew that i can get a vey great photos from the cheapest lens the 50mm f/1.8 :)


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Jul 15, 2013 12:14 |  #43

Cesium wrote in post #16122184 (external link)
If you want the L, I think you will never be truly satisfied until you at least try it. Then you can see for yourself if it is worth the extra money.

kind of true.

$58 to rent the 85 1.2 for 3 days....


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Jul 15, 2013 12:21 |  #44

Those three photos
made me wake up
i will sell all my L lenses and keep the 85mm f/1.8 and buy the 50mm f/1.4 and thats all
with my MP-E 65mm Macro
its ali about editting software LoL
( Tomorrow I will change my mind ) :)


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Jul 15, 2013 13:18 |  #45

Thanks for the pictures, looks like 85 1.2L has better contrast which is what you expected from L lens. There are many reasons why 85L costs a lot more than 85 1.8... build construction - weather seal and others, larger aperture, new optical glass, and new design(R&D cost), but that does not mean it will be 1000% better 85 1.8 in term of IQ.

Explain to me why Dodge Viper costs a lot less than Ferrari F50 in term of performance? Manhattan apartment costs a lot more than a mansion in Alaska in term of size?

BTW, I have 85 1.8 and I love it, but if money is not a problem for me, than 85 1.2L got my vote.


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