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Jul 17, 2013 04:58 |  #16

Osiriz wrote in post #16127241 (external link)
I am very excited about this camera, but I am also curious if Fuji has a full frame camera on the way. It has been reported a couple of times before that they are looking into it.

None of the XF lenses are FF-compatible though, so they'd have to come up with a whole new line.


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Jul 17, 2013 08:32 |  #17

big sensor = big lenses / which defeats the purpose of going mirrorless.

I think I'll be keeping my Olympus OM-D / Canon 5D Mk III combo for now.


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Jul 17, 2013 08:52 |  #18

drumsfield wrote in post #16127868 (external link)
big sensor = big lenses / which defeats the purpose of going mirrorless.

I think I'll be keeping my Olympus OM-D / Canon 5D Mk III combo for now.

In DSLR land sure, but not in rangefinder/mirrorless land.




  
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Jul 17, 2013 08:52 |  #19

Osiriz wrote in post #16127241 (external link)
Yes. Canon had their chance but they blew it.

No doubt Canon blew it...they entered the mirrorless market piddling down their leg with an embarrassingly feeble product. However, it's not true that "they had their chance"; as if to suggest they cannot right the wrong; as if they cannot ever recover; as if they no longer have a chance to enter the market with a strong new release. The market has not passed them by...not yet. If they release a strong M II, it will sell very well I think.

In some ways the M may serve Canon well. The impression I get is that they approached the M with a grudging acceptance of the market for mirrorless interchangeable cameras, but didn't give the development the full time and effort it required. They were late to the party, yet the M seems like a hastily contrived product. I hope they have been shamed and embarrassed by how poorly the M compared to some competing products and we might see a pretty strong M II product in the coming days.


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Jul 17, 2013 08:56 |  #20

drumsfield wrote in post #16127868 (external link)
big sensor = big lenses / which defeats the purpose of going mirrorless.

I think I'll be keeping my Olympus OM-D / Canon 5D Mk III combo for now.

Leica lenses are pretty small.

Even the 50 f/0.95 Noctilux isn't all that big.




  
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Jul 17, 2013 09:55 |  #21

Leica lenses don't do AF, Zoom or go past 135mm. That helps, but also limits your customer base to a small niche.


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Jul 17, 2013 10:07 |  #22

tkbslc wrote in post #16128098 (external link)
Leica lenses don't do AF, Zoom or go past 135mm. That helps, but also limits your customer base to a small niche.

And the lenses of rangefinder cameras don't have retrofocus design, so the minimal focus distance is quite long...

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Jul 17, 2013 11:32 |  #23

drumsfield wrote in post #16127868 (external link)
big sensor = big lenses / which defeats the purpose of going mirrorless.

Your lack of knowledge is defeating you.

Big size of FF lenses? Wrong! Have you ever had a good look at the tiny but neverless optically superior Leica lenses? I guess not. :)




  
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Jul 17, 2013 11:37 |  #24

Osiriz wrote in post #16128399 (external link)
Big size of FF lenses? Wrong! Have you ever had a good look at the tiny but neverless optically superior Leica lenses? I guess not. :)

yeah, that old Leica 400mm 2.8 could fit in your pocket ! ;);)




  
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Jul 17, 2013 11:43 |  #25

watt100 wrote in post #16128412 (external link)
yeah, that old Leica 400mm 2.8 could fit in your pocket ! ;);)

Long, fast lenses = action/wildlife/sports = DSLR.

No-one's going to buy a mirrorless camera with contrast-detect AF to shoot fast, unpredictable action. Just like no-one, bar a few crazy oil sheiks, tries to shoot wildlife and action using a medium-format camera and a 1700mm lens...




  
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Jul 17, 2013 12:34 |  #26

tkbslc wrote in post #16127088 (external link)
Sony needs to make money for this to be a viable product. And they need to sell lenses to make money

Have to agree with this. I was looking at an A99 ( I can get one at less than 50% retail) and the cost of their new lens line up was exorbitant. I didn't feel comfortable shelling out for an un-proven lens line up. Sony whilst producing exciting cameras, aren't quite there yet..........


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Jul 17, 2013 12:53 |  #27

It will have Olympus 5-axis IBIS.


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Jul 17, 2013 13:08 |  #28

h14nha wrote in post #16128577 (external link)
Have to agree with this. I was looking at an A99 ( I can get one at less than 50% retail) and the cost of their new lens line up was exorbitant. I didn't feel comfortable shelling out for an un-proven lens line up. Sony whilst producing exciting cameras, aren't quite there yet..........

Carl Zeiss is "un-proven?"


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Jul 17, 2013 13:32 |  #29

DarthVader wrote in post #16128631 (external link)
It will have Olympus 5-axis IBIS.

/sells off dslr

seriously, hope they release some good lenses


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Jul 17, 2013 14:11 |  #30

Osiriz wrote in post #16128399 (external link)
Your lack of knowledge is defeating you.

Big size of FF lenses? Wrong! Have you ever had a good look at the tiny but neverless optically superior Leica lenses? I guess not. :)

Well, the lack of an autofocus system help a lot with small size. Is that the trade-off you are willing to take ?


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