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Astrophoto ... 5D2 vs 6D

 
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Jul 11, 2013 08:27 |  #1

I've been debating between the 2 for a while, and come to the conclusion that both are more or less equal for my regular shooting (IQ and features). So it comes down to night sky photography.

Now being the newer body, I assume the 6D will have better high iso and noise management ... but is that true?

Has anyone with a 5D2 upgraded to a 6D and gone "ahh yes, this is much better!"?


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Jul 11, 2013 08:40 |  #2

What about the 60Da?


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Jul 11, 2013 08:58 |  #3

Night skies will only be a small part of what I shoot, while some "a" body would be great for those 5% of pics, for the rest of the time I'd much rather have a FF.

The 5D2 and 6D seem to be so close on most regular aspects, astrophoto is the only place where I haven't been able to find a direct comparison.


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Jul 11, 2013 11:50 |  #4

Z0RR0 wrote in post #16110602 (external link)
Night skies will only be a small part of what I shoot, while some "a" body would be great for those 5% of pics, for the rest of the time I'd much rather have a FF.

The 5D2 and 6D seem to be so close on most regular aspects, astrophoto is the only place where I haven't been able to find a direct comparison.

You have take into account how noise reduction software handles each.

Using photoshop cs6 I can get shot at ISO 12800 on my 6D that match 3200 on my 5d2 I had. 6D has the least chroma noise of just about anything out there. 6D also retains tons of detail after a noise reduction pass.

That's a huge difference in my experience. 6D is a nighttime beast.

Also, the 6d I have has zero banding when pushed any amount at any ISO. Giving far more useable dynamic range at all ISO levels. It even has considerably more dynamic range above ISO 800 than a d800 or 600, which for most people is more useful than extra dr at lower iso.


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Jul 11, 2013 19:52 |  #5

In that case, go 6D. If you are buying new, there is no reason to go 5DII if you can afford the 6D IMO.


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Jul 11, 2013 21:40 |  #6

Canon_Lover wrote in post #16111054 (external link)
You have take into account how noise reduction software handles each.

Using photoshop cs6 I can get shot at ISO 12800 on my 6D that match 3200 on my 5d2 I had. 6D has the least chroma noise of just about anything out there. 6D also retains tons of detail after a noise reduction pass.

That's a huge difference in my experience. 6D is a nighttime beast.

Also, the 6d I have has zero banding when pushed any amount at any ISO. Giving far more useable dynamic range at all ISO levels. It even has considerably more dynamic range above ISO 800 than a d800 or 600, which for most people is more useful than extra dr at lower iso.

This.

Bashers of the 6D will constantly tell you that there's less than a stop of ISO improvement, but in actual editing of the RAW files that's just not true, I actually find it gives you much more than that. I've handled several high ISO files from a 5DII, they're definitely not as useable or easy to work with as my 6D's or my friends 5DIII files. The price difference is pretty much negligible... get the 6D.


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Jul 12, 2013 15:15 |  #7

This is what I expected ... it makes sense after all!


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Jul 17, 2013 02:20 |  #8

I would think the 6D would be better. I get banding at high ISO with the 5D2, and I think the 6D would give you clean files, if not higher ISO capabilities as well.


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Jul 17, 2013 02:39 |  #9

Pretty happy with my night photography results with my 6D...


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Jul 17, 2013 22:20 |  #10

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16112522 (external link)
This.

Bashers of the 6D will constantly tell you that there's less than a stop of ISO improvement, but in actual editing of the RAW files that's just not true, I actually find it gives you much more than that. I've handled several high ISO files from a 5DII, they're definitely not as useable or easy to work with as my 6D's or my friends 5DIII files. The price difference is pretty much negligible... get the 6D.

Yea, I'd probably be one of those 'bashers' for most regular shooting, but even though I don't' have a 6D, from what I have seen it will be much much better for astrophotography and long, high ISO exposures.

As others have mentioned, it's not just the noise as we see in those tests that get posted, but the character of the noise and how it responds to NR. Long exposure shots create slightly different noise issues than simple high ISO 'portrait' shots. 5DII is not that impressive in that area and has a lot of large blotchy chroma noise.


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Jul 17, 2013 22:28 |  #11

ejenner wrote in post #16130153 (external link)
Yea, I'd probably be one of those 'bashers' for most regular shooting, but even though I don't' have a 6D, from what I have seen it will be much much better for astrophotography and long, high ISO exposures.

As others have mentioned, it's not just the noise as we see in those tests that get posted, but the character of the noise and how it responds to NR. Long exposure shots create slightly different noise issues than simple high ISO 'portrait' shots. 5DII is not that impressive in that area and has a lot of large blotchy chroma noise.

Exactly. I also had that same issue with my T2i, it's one of the big reasons I upgraded because at the time I was very into that type of photography. Of course now I live in larger community with less privacy and more light pollution, thus don't get to do long exposures as much anymore... go figure.


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