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Jul 04, 2013 16:44 |  #31

ed rader wrote in post #16091610 (external link)
you must not shoot wildlife or anything else that involves cropping.

Sometimes I crop from 2x3 to 4x5. Does this count? :lol:


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Jul 04, 2013 16:46 |  #32

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Sometimes I crop from 2x3 to 4x5. Does this count? :lol:

obviously not ;)!


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Jul 04, 2013 23:38 |  #33

Thanks..Whichever you think will show the unique color and sharpness of the Foveon sensor. I understand it is not better for everything but has it's strengths.

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Sure. Do you want a small embed or full size?

I have both DP1 and DP2s. DP2 is used most of the time because the lens is faster and I like the normal FL better.

They're quirky cameras. You can AF ok in good light on static subjects. If it's anything less than an overcast day, they can't lock focus. But they have an uncoupled rangefinder which kind of makes up for it in a smena (external link) fashion. You can't track motion. You can't change lenses. ISO800 and up is very noisy. I usually convert high ISO to BW and it looks like pushed film. The battery lasts 50 shots on a good day.

I don't know how they compare to current cameras in canon lineup, but the dynamic range is better than 20d and 30d. I feel I can push the raw files much further from this cam. And it's very compact.

I got a DP1 for 250 bucks years ago and DP2 was around 400 later. If you can work around the limitations of the interface, the pictures are great.


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Jul 05, 2013 00:13 |  #34

I can't provide anything better in terms of sharpness than this:
http://www.sigma-dp1.com/sample-photo/ (external link)

In terms of color and dynamic range, I find using grad filters less and less because I can take one exposure for the sky detail and process everything else to have saturated color. At some point with the "fill light" slider pulled too far the file starts looking like HDR and I pull it back. But the detail is there. I've only gotten similar tonality with film.

I never made direct comparisons, but with canon's earlier generation cameras I was not able to get detail in both clouds and shadows.


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Jul 05, 2013 20:19 |  #35

Very nice...it does have a HDR look to it. Thanks for sharing the picture and the explaination. Hopefully I find a deal that makes it worth trying in the future.

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I can't provide anything better in terms of sharpness than this:
http://www.sigma-dp1.com/sample-photo/ (external link)

In terms of color and dynamic range, I find using grad filters less and less because I can take one exposure for the sky detail and process everything else to have saturated color. At some point with the "fill light" slider pulled too far the file starts looking like HDR and I pull it back. But the detail is there. I've only gotten similar tonality with film.

I never made direct comparisons, but with canon's earlier generation cameras I was not able to get detail in both clouds and shadows.


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Jul 05, 2013 22:22 |  #36

aaxsherm wrote in post #16094975 (external link)
Very nice...it does have a HDR look to it. Thanks for sharing the picture and the explaination. Hopefully I find a deal that makes it worth trying in the future.

If you get one, it'll take a while to get used to raw processing. The files look dull and unsaturated because of the higher dynamic range. So it takes a while to get used to getting the white point and the black point where you want them. You obviously don't have to push saturation as far as I did, but the data is there to play with.

For contrasty scenes the camera shines.


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Jul 18, 2013 12:29 |  #37

aaxsherm wrote in post #16091255 (external link)
Little off topic but able to share any picture samples shot with your DP1? Would love to see some real world samples....I have often thought of buying one but it is a large investment to play with when I am very happy with the results from my Canon equipment.

I bought a DP1 Merrill last December and a DP3 Merrill a few weeks ago. I've mostly done landscapes with them and these cameras produce phenomenal images. The raws are in the 55 mb range and they are really slow to work with (in camera and with Sigma's SPP software) and high ISO performance is poor. I typically make only minor adjustments in SPP then export 16-bit TIFFs for further manipulation in Aperture and with the NIK suite. I have a few on my Flickr page, including these.

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Sigma DP3M 3 (external link)

Some of these are reduced in size but others are full resolution (4704 x 3136). The amount of detail (see the full-sized image of the last photo of the flower), color, benefit of no antialiasing filter and lens resolution, contrast and bokeh, make these cameras really special. I haven't used my 5Dii in months and have started selling my lenses. The Sigmas easily out-resolve the 5Dii. I'll probably keep the 5Dii, 24-70, 70-200 f/4L, 135 f/2L and 50mm f/1.4, but sell my remaining EF-mount lenses. (Canon's flash system is still the best, which is why I'm not dumping the 5Dii.) I'm really considering a Sigma SD1 Merrill, but the lens selection is making me a bit hesitant.

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Jul 19, 2013 00:51 |  #38

Nice shots Tony-S


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