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Shooting moving kids with 6d

 
bobbyz
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Jul 27, 2013 23:03 |  #1

How is your experience. I am still having troubles in 2nd week. I try to use the closest point on the eyes (top most on horizontal as well as vertical shooting position). My only two lenses right now are 35L and Sigma 85mm f1.4. I am not seeing my hit rate better than 5dc.:(

With 5dmk3 it was like easy twice or more in focus shots. This is when shooting my kids at f2 usually.

I will add shots in this thread as I process them.


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Jul 27, 2013 23:06 |  #2
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Just curious what AF mode do you use? Lately I find one shot maybe a better option as Sigma 85's AF seems to be a little bit twitchy when on al servo.


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Jul 27, 2013 23:18 |  #3

Today I was trying 35L to rule out sigma 85mm issues. But same results as sigma. One shot as well as AI servo. Now sometimes AI servo worked better than expected but others time horrible.


5dmk3, 35L, 85L II, 300mm f2.8 IS I, 400mm f5.6
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Jul 27, 2013 23:26 |  #4

Here top most AF point trying to be on her eyes.

OK

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Jul 27, 2013 23:26 |  #5
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bobbyz wrote in post #16159665 (external link)
Today I was trying 35L to rule out sigma 85mm issues. But same results as sigma. One shot as well as AI servo. Now sometimes AI servo worked better than expected but others time horrible.

Can't wait to see some samples to see what exactly you mean or how bad when you say it's oof...

EDIT - The OFF ones do look off :p What's your hit rate in %?


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Jul 27, 2013 23:40 |  #6

It varies, sometimes It is real good but other times bad.


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Jul 27, 2013 23:48 |  #7

Looking at the specs, it looks like the 6D only has a single cross-type AF point in the center and the rest are either horizontal or vertical line type, much like your 5D. I just upgraded from a 5D to a 5DIII and the AF was the big reason I held out for the 5DIII instead of getting a 5DIII or a 6D. the 5DIII just has so many more cross-type AF points.




  
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Jul 27, 2013 23:49 |  #8

I know. I had 5dmk3 for while and loved it. Had to sell when we buying the house. Picked up 6d as keep hearing that AF is good inspite of what the specs say.


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Jul 27, 2013 23:50 as a reply to  @ kin2son's post |  #9

I don't have a lot of misses. I shoot dance, kids, portraits, events... But I've come to the conclusion that part of the reason I'm more successful than some with the AF system on the 6D has to do with my personal shooting style. I'm slow. Methodical. Anticipatory. It works for me.

Sorry the 6D isn't working out so well for you.


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Jul 27, 2013 23:51 |  #10

Now here nailed everything. Of course older one didn't move much during these shots.

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Jul 27, 2013 23:52 |  #11

Mavgirl wrote in post #16159718 (external link)
I don't have a lot of misses. I shoot dance, kids, portraits, events... But I've come to the conclusion that part of the reason I'm more successful than some with the AF system on the 6D has to do with my personal shooting style. I'm slow. Methodical. Anticipatory. It works for me.

Sorry the 6D isn't working out so well for you.

Unless I am mistaken you shooting dance at f4 from a distance (too much DOF). I shoot sports if you know. And used to shoot BIFs for long time, so I hope I know how to anticipate things.:)

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Jul 28, 2013 09:54 as a reply to  @ bobbyz's post |  #12

Eyes have mainly horizontal or near horizontal lines, you are using focus points which are vertical line sensitve(center top and bottom in landscape and all besides those and center in portrait). My 5DII struggles the same way.

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Jul 28, 2013 13:25 |  #13

^^ thanks for that dave, will keep this as a reference. I've found the 6D to be fairly accurate outer points, just have issues getting to said points...


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Jul 28, 2013 14:25 as a reply to  @ Charlie's post |  #14

bobbyz you are in fact mistaken. :)


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Jul 28, 2013 17:10 |  #15

bobbyz wrote in post #16159634 (external link)
How is your experience. I am still having troubles in 2nd week. I try to use the closest point on the eyes (top most on horizontal as well as vertical shooting position). My only two lenses right now are 35L and Sigma 85mm f1.4. I am not seeing my hit rate better than 5dc.:(

If you have enough time to pick one focus point out of nine you have enough time to focus with the center focus point and then recompose. Set your camera up for center focus point only.


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