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Jul 28, 2013 17:53 |  #1096

Ranger187 wrote in post #16161569 (external link)
They already have an 8D in the works.... Why not wait for the 10D?

Hey you can get a 10D now. :p


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Jul 28, 2013 17:56 |  #1097

mojodawg wrote in post #16161609 (external link)
Hey you can get a 10D now. :p

I was waiting for Zim to get that first. But I'm sure he will love the airless weight of it. ;)


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Jul 28, 2013 18:03 |  #1098
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Ranger187 wrote in post #16161622 (external link)
I was waiting for Zim to get that first. But I'm sure he will love the airless weight of it. ;)

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Jul 28, 2013 19:47 |  #1099

Just ordered the 70D! Let the countdown begin! Also got the Sigma 18-35 f/1.8.


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Jul 28, 2013 20:51 |  #1100

I just looked into pre-ordering on Amazon and they have a note they will likely not be able to fulfill all orders... is this typical?




  
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Jul 28, 2013 21:11 |  #1101

Where did you see that? I ordered a couple hours ago and didn't see that, and still don't. Body only?


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Jul 29, 2013 06:21 |  #1102

mojodawg wrote in post #16161525 (external link)
True, but the last thing I want to lug around is another piece of hardware just for video. I like taking shots of my kid at soccer and I like taking video clips too. I refrain from video all the time because of the lack of continuos AF in this type of environment. I would probably use the video feature a lot more on the 70D.

So if you were go on to canon's web site and buy a new body today, would you choose the 70D for $1199 or the 7D for $1499?

You'll get no argument from me that the video on a DSLR is useful if you want to occasionally shoot video and don't want to lug around a dedicated video camera. However, that said, camcorders these days are small, so the burden isn't what it once was.

Between the 70D and 7D, I'd probably opt for the 7D even if it were a couple of hundred more than the 70D, because it looks to be more generally capable as a still camera.

But in reality, you can get a 7D for $900 or thereabouts these days (used, of course), and you probably won't be able to touch that price with a 70D for quite some time. That's just a natural advantage of a camera that's been on the market for a few years.


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Jul 29, 2013 06:30 |  #1103

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I used to agree with this but if you want to make cinematic type videos with shallow DOF or dont want to carry around a DSLR and a camcorder then I think this new AF for the 70d will make the DSLR useful for video. FINALLY.

Oh, it will. But it still won't be as ergonomically good for video as a camcorder.

And you can get camcorders that take interchangeable lenses and use a large sensor these days. See, e.g., the Sony NEX-VG30. Admittedly, it's more expensive than the 70D, but you get far superior ergonomics for it.


If you won't use a camcorder as your primary camera for your still shots, why would you use your DSLR as your primary camera for video?


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Jul 29, 2013 07:02 |  #1104

kcbrown wrote in post #16162837 (external link)
But in reality, you can get a 7D for $900 or thereabouts these days (used, of course), and you probably won't be able to touch that price with a 70D for quite some time. That's just a natural advantage of a camera that's been on the market for a few years.

No doubt, and even the 60D at below $600 new is a spectacular buy. It makes a tough decision for someone who wants to upgrade from an xxxd series. The prudent choice would be to get a 60D and use the extra $600 to upgrade or add a new lens, but the 70D features are hard to ignore.

So, I will put this question out to the people here...
Are the features on the 70D worth the premium of $600 over the 60D?

(For argument sake, lets say that the IQ and high-iso noise reduction are about the same or only incrementally better as they have been historically between the xxd models.)


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Jul 29, 2013 08:06 |  #1105

kcbrown wrote in post #16162847 (external link)
Oh, it will. But it still won't be as ergonomically good for video as a camcorder.

And you can get camcorders that take interchangeable lenses and use a large sensor these days. See, e.g., the Sony NEX-VG30. Admittedly, it's more expensive than the 70D, but you get far superior ergonomics for it.


If you won't use a camcorder as your primary camera for your still shots, why would you use your DSLR as your primary camera for video?

Agree. I've used my T4i for a little video and unless you're using it for specific things like a documentary or maybe product shots or interviews it's really not very practical. Like for shooting video on the go on a vacation. PITA. Camcorders are much more practical. I'm not saying the 70D video capabilities aren't going to be great it's just that the practicality of using a DSLR for non-professional type activities is really problematic IMO.




  
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Jul 29, 2013 08:58 |  #1106

kcbrown wrote in post #16162847 (external link)
If you won't use a camcorder as your primary camera for your still shots, why would you use your DSLR as your primary camera for video?

As far as ergonimics, the dslr with a flip screen is about the same as a camcorder. Nobody puts them to their eye anymore. Its all done with the screen.
So using a dslr with great AF , shallow DOF, that I already have with me, can switch to stills in 1 second is better than a normal camcorder.

I own a 7d so I don't use it for video much but if it had the new dual pixel stuff I would.

One big advantage of a camcorder is the zoom is massive though.



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Jul 29, 2013 09:15 |  #1107

mojodawg wrote in post #16161609 (external link)
Hey you can get a 10D now. :p

Future tech indeed! I took this with the 10D and it's amazing AF system!

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Jul 29, 2013 09:29 |  #1108

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Future tech indeed! I took this with the 10D and it's amazing AF system!

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Which just goes to show that there's still much to be said for proper technique, real world practical knowledge and experience. This is a very nice shot vertigo - it really captures the essence of the pooch.

I'm all for tech advances, but sometimes people get just a little too hung up on the gear and forget that it's really the guy or gal behind the lens. My first dSLR was the 5Dc. I now have the Mark 3 but that orginal still does a great job even though the tech is 8 years old.


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Jul 29, 2013 09:35 |  #1109

Thankse sapearl, honestly that shot proves that it's much more about the glass than the body. That was a 70-200 f2.8L (non IS) and the 10D with AI Servo on the center point. The ole 10D had no problem keeping up with him at full speed.


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Jul 29, 2013 10:23 |  #1110

New sample pics?
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http://translate.googl​e.com …07%2Fcanon_eos_​70def.html (external link)


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