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Jul 29, 2013 19:00 |  #1

I got my first film camera and shot my first roll. So here are some shots. They're not in any particular order, some of them are just test shots. But I am excited to shoot some more. I need to figure out someway of developing cheaper though. $11/roll :confused:

Anyways,

1)

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Jul 29, 2013 19:23 |  #2

what film did you use? ektar 100?


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Jul 29, 2013 19:38 |  #3

I've got no idea, sorry :/


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Jul 29, 2013 19:44 |  #4

Loving the bokeh and nice colours in number 5


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Jul 29, 2013 19:49 |  #5

So, I'm asking since this is a "digital photography forum" and is on the Internet, meaning you posted digital images, so...:

Were these scanned negatives/transparenci​es or scanned prints?

How did you process these? Did you do the darkroom work or did you just do a "One Hour Photo" thing? And then did you process the scanned results? How?

I'm not trying to "put down" what you've done, I've done plenty of scanned film photos, just give some info!


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Jul 29, 2013 20:08 |  #6

tonylong wrote in post #16164883 (external link)
So, I'm asking since this is a "digital photography forum" and is on the Internet, meaning you posted digital images, so...:

Were these scanned negatives/transparenci​es or scanned prints?

How did you process these? Did you do the darkroom work or did you just do a "One Hour Photo" thing? And then did you process the scanned results? How?

I'm not trying to "put down" what you've done, I've done plenty of scanned film photos, just give some info!

Hey there, I just took the roll to CVS and did the one hour printing. I also asked for a CD, which is how I got the digitized images.


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Jul 29, 2013 20:15 |  #7

If you feel you want to commit to film, then go ahead and start looking for the developing stuff. Normally there is a supply of the stuff on the film user's forums. Chemicals can be purchased reasonably, but you need to commit, otherwise look at the cost to have an out of state lab develop and scan. Even the "local" lab I have here sometimes get it right and sometimes not so right....

A good, dedicated 35mm scanner would also make a noticable difference in scanning results. I now use Vuescan for both my Nikon 35mm scanner and my Epson flatbed.

If you start using film a bit more, I bet your digital photography will improve too.....it forced me to visualize and not take 10 shots knowing 1 will be a winner. I also started reading recommended photography books and practicing wtih the digital camera. It's amazing what a little knowledge and practice will do!!

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Jul 29, 2013 20:15 |  #8

Tiller wrote in post #16164921 (external link)
Hey there, I just took the roll to CVS and did the one hour printing. I also asked for a CD, which is how I got the digitized images.

Ah, OK, I see! I used to do that with my old film cameras!


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Jul 29, 2013 20:23 |  #9

One can just go to CVS or Walgreens if they still have the equipment to develop on site. To keep things reasonable I just had my local lab develop then I scanned at home. After a couple of trials, I was able to scan slightly better than my local lab. Yes it did take me awhile (as in many hours) practicing scanning techniques, but the more I did the better they got. I haven't had a lab scan for me in two years......

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Jul 29, 2013 20:27 |  #10

Kim Johnson Images wrote in post #16164889 (external link)
Looks too grainy for ISO 100, gotta be at least 400 or 800, or really enlarged. The last time I used 400 film the grain was really good, and that was years ago.

the saturated colors made me think ektar right away but you're right, it's too grainy to be ektar 100.

here's ektar 100 shot

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Jul 30, 2013 01:31 |  #11

To save money when shooting film, don't have them make the prints. Both CVS and Walgreens will do just the negatives and CD. One charges $5+, and the other is $8+ (I can't remember which charges which price, but I think CVS was the $5 one). They're 1200x1800dpi scans, which is usable. If you have a great image, and need a higher scan, there are places that can do that.

Not asking for the prints saves about half.


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Jul 30, 2013 09:50 |  #12

I'm 100% behind shooting film (it's 95% of what I shoot these days), but you've got to take it somewhere that does better processing/scanning than this. The colours are...well...they're not good. The skin tones are all over the map.

Moreover, if you learned photography on a digital camera, you're going to have to learn a whole new set of skills, particularly when it comes to metering. The key to shooting colour negative film is to never, ever, EVER underexpose. Even consumer grade films can be overexposed substantially without clipping the highlights; pro films like Portra 400 have 17-18 stops of dynamic range, and most of that is above middle grey. This is exactly opposite to digital, where you get perhaps 2-3 stops above middle grey before clipping occurs, but shadow retention is excellent.

My guess is that you've underexposed these, and some lab tech has tried to "fix" them at the scanning stage. #4 is the only one remotely accurate colours, and that's likely because the metering is very simple.

Film is very, very rewarding, and the colours that can be achieved are (IMHO) far and away better than what digital can do. But like any medium, you've got to learn how to get the best from it.


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Jul 30, 2013 10:05 |  #13

Kim Johnson Images wrote in post #16164889 (external link)
Looks too grainy for ISO 100, gotta be at least 400 or 800, or really enlarged. The last time I used 400 film the grain was really good, and that was years ago.

Or chems near exhaustion, which considering where it was developed wouldn't surprise me. Pro labs keep their chems replenished and fresh.


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Jul 30, 2013 14:51 |  #14

In my experience having film developed at cvs is a crapshoot, I almost always get back scratched negatives, its cheap at $1.50ish a roll develop only, but not worth it if the pictures are important. They also wont do anything besides 35mm c41. The scans are subpar to anything you can produce at home even with a lower model epson flatbed.

If you get a tank and a $20 tetenal/jobo/unicolor c41 powder kit you can really make using film affordable. Some people will push the kits to 20+ rolls, $1 a roll has to be the cheapest color developing available. You also are in complete control of the process, which might be a bit nerve racking at first but once you've done it a few times its easy peasy.

If you really want to commit to film, look for a used processor, they can be had for $200-$400 and will give you very consistent results and do 75% of the work for you. Dedicated scanners like the plustek opticfilm scanners can be had for $200-$300 and if you want even better scans you can look at the nikon coolscan models.




  
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Jul 30, 2013 16:09 |  #15

namtot wrote in post #16167322 (external link)
In my experience having film developed at cvs is a crapshoot, I almost always get back scratched negatives, its cheap at $1.50ish a roll develop only, but not worth it if the pictures are important. They also wont do anything besides 35mm c41. The scans are subpar to anything you can produce at home even with a lower model epson flatbed.

If you get a tank and a $20 tetenal/jobo/unicolor c41 powder kit you can really make using film affordable. Some people will push the kits to 20+ rolls, $1 a roll has to be the cheapest color developing available. You also are in complete control of the process, which might be a bit nerve racking at first but once you've done it a few times its easy peasy.

If you really want to commit to film, look for a used processor, they can be had for $200-$400 and will give you very consistent results and do 75% of the work for you. Dedicated scanners like the plustek opticfilm scanners can be had for $200-$300 and if you want even better scans you can look at the nikon coolscan models.

Agree with all of this.


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