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70D vs 5d Mark III vs 6D

 
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Jul 30, 2013 11:37 |  #31

rent wrote in post #16162388 (external link)
Spend money on good (L) lenses, which will outlast bodies many times over.

I agree 100%. So my choice was to get a 6D and a good L lens.


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Jul 30, 2013 11:41 |  #32

Get a used 5D2 and enjoy your days.


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Jul 30, 2013 12:27 |  #33

Dexinthecity wrote in post #16164041 (external link)
I'm thinking maybe going with another 60D and getting a great L lens (ideally I want the holy trinity 35, 86, 135mm L)

Okay, IMHO, I would not go 60D.
I truly desire and feel I need the superior AF that the 5D3 and the upcoming 70D will offer.
Even the 6D af is a step up from 60D. (in some aspects)

But my needs include fast action and birds in flight.


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Jul 30, 2013 15:10 |  #34

How's this? Get a 5DII or 6D and a 35mm. Nothing else for now, except maybe a flash and tripod.


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Jul 30, 2013 18:20 |  #35

Dexinthecity wrote in post #16162174 (external link)
Great responses so far, so budget wise if I be a 5dmkiii or 6d I would have a mediocre lens. Or if I go with a 60d I could get an L lens. Which is a better choice?

get a 6d with a few manual lenses if cost is an issue.


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Jul 30, 2013 18:23 |  #36

eddie3dfx wrote in post #16167870 (external link)
get a 6d with a few manual lenses if cost is an issue.

Solid advice. I hardly ever use my 24-105L, all my vintage primes produce more pleasing images and cost me under $100 each. I was blown away last weekend when testing my "new" Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm (Komine) next to my dad's borrowed 24-70L mk1 and I couldn't see much difference between the two even at 100% crops.


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Jul 30, 2013 20:57 |  #37

What do you plan on doing with the photos you take? If you are going to do limited PP, just store them, perhaps sharing a few online and occasionally print them up to 8x10 then don't waste money on a FF. Buy a 70D when it comes out in Sept and get some good quality lenses and not necessarily "L" lenses. My favorite lens before going to FF was the Canon 15-85. Great IQ if you do the things mentioned above. Looking at the images on my PC and normal size prints I would say they are just as good as those taken by my 5D3 and 24-105.

However if you know you will be shooting in low light situations, will often crop your images, make large prints, and do a lot of PP then a FF camera my better suit your needs. I was doing some PP today to some pics I took yesterday on vacation. I was using my 5D3 with 24-105. I took a shot of my nephew and his daughter out in the water. They looked the size of a pea in the image. So I cropped the image to zoom in and there faces where just as sharp as if I had taken the picture from 10 feet instead of over 100 feet. With my T2i or my 7D with my 15-85 I couldn't have done that crop and gotten a good sharp image. Plus as has been mentioned PP seems to be easier with the 5D3. Takes much less tweaking to get a great image and so far I have never applied sharpening which I sometimes had to do with the crop cameras.

If you are fussy about your images break the bank now and get the 5D3 with the 24-105. Then add some other "L" lenses to fill in the coverage gaps. I bought a T1i then a T2i and then a 7D along with some EF-S lenses before going to the 5D3 and a couple of "L" lenses. I would have saved money had I just bought the 5D3 first although it wasn't available when I bought the first two cameras.


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Aug 01, 2013 00:29 |  #38

GaryS1964 wrote in post #16168247 (external link)
What do you plan on doing with the photos you take? If you are going to do limited PP, just store them, perhaps sharing a few online and occasionally print them up to 8x10 then don't waste money on a FF. Buy a 70D when it comes out in Sept and get some good quality lenses and not necessarily "L" lenses. My favorite lens before going to FF was the Canon 15-85. Great IQ if you do the things mentioned above. Looking at the images on my PC and normal size prints I would say they are just as good as those taken by my 5D3 and 24-105.

However if you know you will be shooting in low light situations, will often crop your images, make large prints, and do a lot of PP then a FF camera my better suit your needs. I was doing some PP today to some pics I took yesterday on vacation. I was using my 5D3 with 24-105. I took a shot of my nephew and his daughter out in the water. They looked the size of a pea in the image. So I cropped the image to zoom in and there faces where just as sharp as if I had taken the picture from 10 feet instead of over 100 feet. With my T2i or my 7D with my 15-85 I couldn't have done that crop and gotten a good sharp image. Plus as has been mentioned PP seems to be easier with the 5D3. Takes much less tweaking to get a great image and so far I have never applied sharpening which I sometimes had to do with the crop cameras.

If you are fussy about your images break the bank now and get the 5D3 with the 24-105. Then add some other "L" lenses to fill in the coverage gaps. I bought a T1i then a T2i and then a 7D along with some EF-S lenses before going to the 5D3 and a couple of "L" lenses. I would have saved money had I just bought the 5D3 first although it wasn't available when I bought the first two cameras.


sigh...good advice I'm so confused!


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Aug 01, 2013 00:56 |  #39

Dexinthecity wrote in post #16171667 (external link)
sigh...good advice I'm so confused!

Sometimes these things can be over thought. You said originally you like the t4i and loved the 60d. Your answer is there. You can buy a camera in this range, by all means wait and see how good the 70d is, or if your worried about autofocus you could now go with a 7d. They are all good cameras and will excel with great lenses.

Some of the guys recommeding the 5d3 and others etc are doing so because these cameras are better and you never mentioned a budget per say. These posters likely started with lesser cameras, but the lesser cameras of today are still excellent. If you got a 60d or 7d or t4i and put a lens such as the 70-200 f4 IS (just an example), I would very much doubt the quality it produces woukld make you anything less than delighted


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Aug 01, 2013 02:01 |  #40

I would go for the 70D and a bunch of good lenses. Much more fun than a 6D and bad or MF only lenses which can be fun but are mostly a pain with modern viewfinders.


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Aug 02, 2013 22:04 |  #41

The 6D launched with waves of 'affordable FF', but FF can still cost double for a comparable setup (lenses etc). If you want to get back to what you had, the 60D is silly cheap now. The 70D is mostly about live view and video. If getting a 6D or 5D3 means cutting back on the lenses you want, it's probably not worth it. In terms of lenses, future proof means not having to sell your lenses when the time comes. This is not that much work - pick up some crop lenses, then sell if/when you outgrow them.

If you want FF and can get one good multipurpose lens, go with the 6D
If you want FF and need more glass, check out the 5D1, which you upgrade next year
If FF offers no meaningful advantage (worth above), the xxDs are still sweet!
I would also consider a used 7D, it may offer a sweet spot of price and capability


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Aug 03, 2013 02:06 |  #42

ElectronGuru wrote in post #16176899 (external link)
The 70D is mostly about live view and video.

How can you say that when there are no reviews out yet? And when we know it has a new sensor and 19 AF points versus the 9 on the 60D?


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Aug 03, 2013 02:38 |  #43

I don't think you should buy a camera based on its ability to record videos. The files are generally going to be Gigabites in terms of size and unless you are going to upload it or sell it as a product, I wouldn't recommend lugging around 2K worth of equipment just to shoot videos. Camera phones, camcorders and GoPro shoot in 1080p already so you could pick them up if you wanted to add video to your toys.

Honestly I think you are looking for us to tell you what you want to hear (buy the best of the best), but in the end its your budget. Everyone will recommend you buy L lens and it's most people's dreams to own the highest end equipment. On that note, I looked at your requirements and its all over the place. You shoot anything and everything so here is what I would recommend you buying:

Canon 5Dc -Check out the Camera Image Sample page. I own one and its a great introductory FF camera without having to pay the huge initial cost. It shoots at 1600 ISO fine with current Photoshop Noise Reduction applications so to say that it is a limiting camera would be false.
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1159990
Tamron 28-75- Great L lens alternative. People compare it to the 24-70 v1 and my old copy was 99% of what the 24-70 can do already
Canon 50 1.8- Amazing bang for the buck prime lens. Check out the Image Sample Thread.
https://photography-on-the.net …hp?t=1059085&hi​ghlight=50
Canon 70-200 F4 IS- Second sharpest zoom lens in this range next to the 70-200 F2.8 IS II. Check out the thread for that too. This will cover anything you shoot outside as well as portraits outdoors. 135L is a good alternative. Both have their uses.
Canon 580ex I- Basic flash. Yes, its old but its a workhorse and does 99% of what other flashes do.
Kenko Extension Tubes- Macro work.

If you look at that selection, you have the range from 28-200, macro, and a prime lens with FF. Prime lens doesn't allow you to be flexible enough to shoot everything. It takes a high caliber of planning to get exact shots and zoom lenses allow you to shoot everything and anything. If you don't like a particular lens, buying it used means you can unload it for about the same when you want to get rid of it for another lens.

You can just start with a 5D(Mk I or II) and a 50 1.8 and live with that for a month. By then you should know what kind of lens you need.


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