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mpstudios_llc
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Jul 31, 2013 09:53 |  #1

I am a super noob, and need to take more photos. But I need to know some equipment needed first. I already have the flash, but I need exact products (links if you are awesome) of what things I need, like what kind of light stands (if i need), reflectors recommended, stuff like that.

keep in mind I am 1 person with no assistant (no one to hold other equipment).
Help please!




  
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Jul 31, 2013 11:49 |  #2

What flash you have and what do you shoot? I assume portraits.


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Jul 31, 2013 12:31 as a reply to  @ bobbyz's post |  #3

Yep! Portraits. I have a YN 565EX.




  
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Jul 31, 2013 13:11 |  #4

Here's what I've just purchased this week, I'm a beginner too, and on a budget:

Many will disagree about my choices, but this is what I'd recommend for absolute beginners, like myself. If you have a bigger budget, and would like to "invest" in equipment, I'd say skip these and get better quality stuff..

You'll need this to utilize available (sun) light.. It's HUGE and it's good for group shots and full-body portraits, cars, etc..
Neewer 110CM 43" 5-in-1 Collapsible Multi-Disc Light Reflector (external link)

You'll need a beauty dish for indoors/outdoors, this can be used with any speedlite flash unit and you can change the holder/circle to AlienBees later on when you upgrade to strobes:
Fotodiox 28-Inch Beauty Dish (external link)

Of course, you'll need stands to hold anything, flashes, beautydishes, umbrellas, etc.. I got this one (I know some will disagree, but for $16 it's a good deal).. It's functional but you'll probably need to put some weight on its base to keep it in place when it's windy.
Get a couple of these, at least..
Cowboy Studio Top Quality Aluminum Adjustable Light Stand with Case (external link)

If you'd like to try umbrellas, get convertible ones.. So you can use it for reflecting light and shooting through it..
Westcott 2016 45-Inch Optical White Satin with Removable Black Cover Umbrella (external link)


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Jul 31, 2013 13:28 |  #5

My take.

1. Nice light stand. Bogen, avenger, mathews, pick how solid you want.
2. Modifier, Something like Qbox24" or 30" is quite nice. You may want to add umbrella, beauty dish.
3. Triggers like AB CyberSync, PW, or cheaper version. Too many options.

Shooting alone I have seen that reflector don't help much. I need to have stands, arms etc to hold them in place. So I don't use one anymore.


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Jul 31, 2013 14:34 as a reply to  @ bobbyz's post |  #6

Not to sound like a smart ass, but the sand bag should be the most important accessory for shooting outdoors. I lost a big photek softlighter umbrella when I first started using lights outside, and more recently lost a smaller softlighter umbrella because I was too lazy to actually use the sand bags. Now it's beauty dish or 'standard' reflectors for me outdoors unless I have someone helping.




  
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Jul 31, 2013 15:02 |  #7

Going Baroque wrote in post #16170329 (external link)
Not to sound like a smart ass, but the sand bag should be the most important accessory for shooting outdoors.

+1

I personally refuse to be a consumerist and actually buy sandbags..

I'll be making my own this weekend, "Sand" + "Bags" = "Sand Bags" :cool: (Acutally gonna use pebbles, safer and cleaner than sand)


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Jul 31, 2013 17:25 |  #8

Vital accessories for outdoor shooting:


  1. A sandbag
  2. Another sandbag.
  3. A third sandbag.
I usually fill mine with pea gravel (= cheapest washed gravel from the Builder's Merchant yard at under US$2 per 56lb bag) but bottles of water work just as well. Advantage with water is that you can usually pour it away when you've finished, so no carrying back to the car. With a bit of planning, you can quite often fill the bottles on location too. 1 Imperial gallon weighs 10lbs, 1 litre weighs 1 kilo (not surprisingly!)

I've never actually had sand in any of my sandbags - far too potentially messy, even with polybags inside double-zipped bags. I do have a couple with my son's spare barbell weights in, but they stay at home these days.

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Aug 06, 2013 15:23 |  #9

Youre the man posting all these links.
Beginner stuff is definitely what I need.

Sens0r wrote in post #16170082 (external link)
Here's what I've just purchased this week, I'm a beginner too, and on a budget:

Many will disagree about my choices, but this is what I'd recommend for absolute beginners, like myself. If you have a bigger budget, and would like to "invest" in equipment, I'd say skip these and get better quality stuff..

You'll need this to utilize available (sun) light.. It's HUGE and it's good for group shots and full-body portraits, cars, etc..
Neewer 110CM 43" 5-in-1 Collapsible Multi-Disc Light Reflector (external link)

You'll need a beauty dish for indoors/outdoors, this can be used with any speedlite flash unit and you can change the holder/circle to AlienBees later on when you upgrade to strobes:
Fotodiox 28-Inch Beauty Dish (external link)

Of course, you'll need stands to hold anything, flashes, beautydishes, umbrellas, etc.. I got this one (I know some will disagree, but for $16 it's a good deal).. It's functional but you'll probably need to put some weight on its base to keep it in place when it's windy.
Get a couple of these, at least..
Cowboy Studio Top Quality Aluminum Adjustable Light Stand with Case (external link)

If you'd like to try umbrellas, get convertible ones.. So you can use it for reflecting light and shooting through it..
Westcott 2016 45-Inch Optical White Satin with Removable Black Cover Umbrella (external link)




  
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Aug 06, 2013 22:02 |  #10

The Cowboy light stands are essentially crap. I have similar stands that I got as part of a constant light kit. They are too small and too lightweight for serious support.

I have found that Calumet stands are a great value. Everything from a nano stand to a 13Ft air cushioned stand are great value for the investment.

I think I've got about 8 or 10 Calumet stands of various sizes.


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Aug 08, 2013 10:47 |  #11

Wireless flash triggers: (one on hotshoe for camera, one on each flash)

http://www.ebay.com …motes&hash=item​27cb03dd63 (external link)

nice solid light stands:
http://www.ebay.com …ain_0&hash=item​2ebdd6c795 (external link)

Easy to use brolly. acts like a soft box, with the ease of an umbrella, but you can find good umbrellas:
http://www.ebay.com …ain_0&hash=item​48457fef1f (external link)

umbrella and flash holder: (can be used for canon flash or nikon) connects the two to the light stand.
http://www.ebay.com …ories&hash=item​485365a859 (external link)

Wait on the beauty dish and other modifiers till you learn about light and how to use it. And what you want it for... all different types of photography, and you may not end up where you think you were going.

Go to www.strobist.com (external link) and check out the Learning light 101 online course there.


Godox/Flashpoint r2 system, plus some canon stuff.

  
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