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Jul 27, 2013 09:24 |  #91

^^Wow, truly impressive ! After the 300/2.8 II, you also got yourself the 500/4 II and the 1DX ? That must have added a few kilograms to your bag ! :D


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Jul 27, 2013 09:33 |  #92

^Those look really great Mark; even the 2x gave a sharp result with excellent contast. Did you notice a major drop-off with the AF speed? I don't have the 500 II yet, but I'm thinking about it. In the meantime I keep wondering what nets the best long-reach result: The 2x with a FF camera, or the 1.4x with a crop-frame.


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Jul 27, 2013 09:59 |  #93

Ouessant wrote in post #16158035 (external link)
^^Wow, truly impressive ! After the 300/2.8 II, you also got yourself the 500/4 II and the 1DX ? That must have added a few kilograms to your bag ! :D

Thanks François. A few kgs and a few £s :)

David Arbogast wrote in post #16158054 (external link)
^Those look really great Mark; even the 2x gave a sharp result with excellent contast. Did you notice a major drop-off with the AF speed? I don't have the 500 II yet, but I'm thinking about it. In the meantime I keep wondering what nets the best long-reach result: The 2x with a FF camera, or the 1.4x with a crop-frame.

Thanks David. The AF speed is slightly slower when using the 1.4 TC and slower again when using the 2X. It's possible to work around that to some extent by using the focus limiter switch on the lens (i.e. if you want to take a shot of something 30m away there's no point in letting the camera search through from mfd - 10m and you can cut out that range) The 1000mm shots were taken with my 1D mk IV which gives the added advantage of its 1.3 crop sensor, so the equivalent of 1300mm in terms of pixels on the target. Having said that, IQ for the 1D IV, 5D3 and 1Dx are all excellent so I'd say it's personal choice depending on your budget. There's no bad option in there.




  
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Jul 28, 2013 17:40 |  #94

Mark
I see that you have 7d, 1d MK IV and 1Dx and use it with 500mm f4 IS II. At present i have 7d + 500mm f4 IS II and use it with 1.4 TC attached all the time, am looking at getting a new camera and cant decide on the fact that if i get 1Dx i will loose that crop factor but gain in image quality and high iso performance. If i get 1d MK IV i will get 1.3 crop factor and get good results upto ISO 3200. My question to you as you have used all 3 cameras
while shooting Birds of Prey with 1Dx do you miss the reach ??
How much better is 1Dx compared to 1D IV in ISO and AF speed ??
Thanks
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Jul 28, 2013 18:06 as a reply to  @ mmackwan's post |  #95

Hi Mickey. So far, having only had the 1Dx and 500mm f/4 for 1 week I haven't had much chance to really test the combination. My early findings though are that the 1Dx has a faster AF speed than the 1D IV and the 1Dx is better at high ISO than the 1D IV. Here's a shot I took with the 1Dx and 500mm f/4 + 1.4x TC III (so 700mm). It was a dark area and a Blackbird so ISO 16000. I think the shot came out quite well for those settings:

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I especially liked how much shadow detail the 1Dx recorded for such a high ISO. The 1D IV would have got the shot but I think wouldn't have done as well.
I must add though that the 1D IV is a really good camera. If you want a really well built workhorse which will deliver the goods you couldn't go wrong and, of course, the 1.3 crop gives that extra reach.
I don't know if you've seen this post I made in the 300mm lens section earlier, I was seriously impressed with the AF of the 1Dx under the circumstances:

https://photography-on-the.net …read.php?t=9225​77&page=32



  
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Jul 30, 2013 06:03 as a reply to  @ 2slo's post |  #96

Two shots of one of my garden residents. The first one is a 100% crop, the second 50%. Both taken handheld using 1Dx plus 500mm f/4 IS II:

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Jul 30, 2013 10:32 |  #97

Wow


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Jul 30, 2013 11:02 |  #98

It was a dark and cloudy day...

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Jul 30, 2013 14:39 |  #99

I like the heat coming off the car and track in shot one


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Jul 30, 2013 16:30 |  #100

mmackwan wrote in post #16161581 (external link)
Mark
I see that you have 7d, 1d MK IV and 1Dx and use it with 500mm f4 IS II. At present i have 7d + 500mm f4 IS II and use it with 1.4 TC attached all the time, am looking at getting a new camera and cant decide on the fact that if i get 1Dx i will loose that crop factor but gain in image quality and high iso performance. If i get 1d MK IV i will get 1.3 crop factor and get good results upto ISO 3200. My question to you as you have used all 3 cameras
while shooting Birds of Prey with 1Dx do you miss the reach ??
How much better is 1Dx compared to 1D IV in ISO and AF speed ??
Thanks
Mickey

I know it's only talk at present, but maybe wait to see if the 7D2 happens?


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Jul 31, 2013 07:13 |  #101

Thanks Mark for the reply you said ISO 16000 is it a typo or is it really 16000 ISO. Yes nellyle am gonna wait till christmas as hopefully the 7d II should be announced by then.


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Jul 31, 2013 07:29 |  #102

mmackwan wrote in post #16169108 (external link)
Thanks Mark for the reply you said ISO 16000 is it a typo or is it really 16000 ISO. Yes nellyle am gonna wait till christmas as hopefully the 7d II should be announced by then.

It's really ISO 16,000 (sixteen thousand)




  
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Jul 31, 2013 11:15 |  #103

2slo wrote in post #16165905 (external link)
Two shots of one of my garden residents. The first one is a 100% crop, the second 50%. Both taken handheld using 1Dx plus 500mm f/4 IS II:

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I love the bird's pose in this fantastic shot!

2slo wrote in post #16169137 (external link)
It's really ISO 16,000 (sixteen thousand)

You make a powerfully compelling case for a 1DX + 500mm II combo!


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Jul 31, 2013 15:25 |  #104

Mark
Thanks for clearing that out, the image is better than what i can get with 7d at ISO 400, honestly i have no words for how good the 1dx ISO performance is Thanks Mate.


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Jul 31, 2013 15:41 |  #105

David Arbogast wrote in post #16169761 (external link)
I love the bird's pose in this fantastic shot!

You make a powerfully compelling case for a 1DX + 500mm II combo!

Thanks David. One of the good things with the Canon 500s is that the price of the version 1 remains high due to a fairly constant demand. Nice if you decide to upgrade and p/ex.

mmackwan wrote in post #16170471 (external link)
Mark
Thanks for clearing that out, the image is better than what i can get with 7d at ISO 400, honestly i have no words for how good the 1dx ISO performance is Thanks Mate.

No trouble Mickey, the 7D is still a very good camera. If you haven't seen it already, have a read of Teamspeeds advice in the camera section on how to get the best out of it at higher ISOs?




  
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