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Jul 31, 2013 17:11 as a reply to  @ post 16170710 |  #2116

My wife helped teach a class for the world famous (if you're into heirloom sewing) Martha Pullen school in Huntsville, AL. She came back with a dress that fits our 5 year old, and needed some pictures ASAP. This was quick & dirty with no time to set up backdrops and not much space in which to work, so no flames (;)) please for the candle holder sticking out of her head. (Note: Skin tones and colors look really weird with Internet Explorer)

I had a choice of TTL-capable speedlights, Einstein's and CL-360's. I could have used any of those, but chose to use a pair of Cheetah's due to their simplicity. Using a light meter, it took less than a minute to adjust the lights and start shooting. Yes, it's that fast.

Why not Einstein's? This would have been my 2nd choice. The CyberCommander has very useful features (that I never use), but the menu system is clumsy when compared to Cheetah's.

Why not TTL-capable speedlights? This would have been my last choice because TTL doesn't provide the consistency. Since this was a static subject, I would have put them in manual mode anyway. The choice of speedlight modifiers is also more restrictive. YMMV.

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Jul 31, 2013 17:17 |  #2117

^^^ skin tones look OK on my kind of calibrated MacBook Pro screen.
Cute girl. Well lit. I hope that's foam core rather than a wall that needs work. :-)


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Jul 31, 2013 17:47 |  #2118

OMG she is cute as a button!


Can your wife make a cases for photography gear? :lol:


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Jul 31, 2013 17:57 |  #2119

PhotographersWorldWide wrote in post #16170578 (external link)
That little fact seems to be the fulcrum the Cheetah system relies on and is regularly celebrated. and the fact that your touted system costs twice as much is never addressed

I'm happy to make comparisons for you.. we could throw in Lumedyne and Norman if you wish, both barbulb flashes - neither of those 'do' TTL or 'do' remote power setting so you might be happier with those? If you're happy to mix your 580Ex on camera (for TTL) along with your PW transmitter and your PW receiver plus your CL-Tx transmitter and CL-Rx receiver and CL lights all at the same time - far be it for me to need to point out any failings in the Cheetah system with all those requirements - it should just be plainly obvious. it works just fine for me thank you. I use this setup for one shot and one shot only. However it's nice to know that I can use it for other shots if needed. The rest of the 1000+ photos I typically shoot at a wedding are either natural light, bounced light from my 580ex's, or with my Cheetah lights. It's good to have choices.

You'll pretty much find that the Chetah system is sold on the basis of being cheap - along with (please don't mention the HSS manual 'H' switch on the flash, the manual focus assist and the requirement for another Cells-II transmitter (in order to trigger in H mode with only some cameras) fiasco - and also.. 'because Edward requested it' ) !? Strange request. Why shouldn't they be discussed? focus assist is a non issue for me thank you. Don't need it on my off camera lights. I have no problem carrying an extra cells II transmitter.

Even without any other system to compare to - do you really think thats a sensible setup or is that just a compromise because of price?

In no way is the low price missed in this discussion. if it keeps the price down to more than half the cost of your system, then yes....I do think it's a very sensible setup

Btw.. heres the 'subjective' Cheetah battery not breaking:: Link :

I've dropped my Cheetah lights twice now. Haven't broken a thing yet. So I'm happy.

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Jul 31, 2013 18:05 |  #2120

dmward wrote in post #16170772 (external link)
^^^ skin tones look OK on my kind of calibrated MacBook Pro screen.
Cute girl. Well lit. I hope that's foam core rather than a wall that needs work. :-)

Are you saying there's something wrong with the wall? Just kidding - it is foam core. We do, however, have a section of drywall in our garage that's severely bowed because the installers didn't put in enough screws.

My monitor is calibrated, but IE seems to have an issue with colors. No problem with Safari, Chrome or Firefox. Off topic, but does anyone know of a setting in IE that will improve the color mapping?




  
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Jul 31, 2013 18:26 |  #2121

^^^ skin tones look OK on both calibrated and uncalibrated monitors under Firefox v22.0.
Less than 1 minute - sounds about right.
Cute girl - check.
Well lit - check.
Foamcore - hope so, no skirting board.
Legs in that position - wish my joints would still do that!

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I've been hoping for the same thing -- a website where we can all admire the great pictures he's made with his trusty QFlashes.

David: As an ex commercial pilot, I'm certain you are familiar with the improbable concept of a whole squadron of pigs being fuelled and ready to fly. I believe this pertains here.

B.I.C Setting for IE which will improve the colour mapping? OFF ;) I got so totally p*ssed off with IE and all it's little issues that I never ever even look at it now. So my setting for IE really is OFF


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Jul 31, 2013 18:32 |  #2122

sigma pi wrote in post #16170847 (external link)
OMG she is cute as a button!


Can your wife make a cases for photography gear? :lol:

What happened to the POTN guy who was making these ?


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Jul 31, 2013 19:06 |  #2123

sigma pi wrote in post #16170847 (external link)
OMG she is cute as a button!


Can your wife make a cases for photography gear? :lol:

Sure, as long as it looks like a dress and it's smocked;)




  
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Jul 31, 2013 21:14 |  #2124

For those who may be interested, I see that Edward has updated his CheetahStand website with the CL-180/CL-360 accessories.




  
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Jul 31, 2013 21:46 |  #2125

tetrode wrote in post #16171237 (external link)
For those who may be interested, I see that Edward has updated his CheetahStand website with the CL-180/CL-360 accessories.

Did the battery holder come in ?


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Jul 31, 2013 22:45 |  #2126

sigma pi wrote in post #16169766 (external link)
Just throwing a monkey wrench in this thread.

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Jul 31, 2013 22:47 |  #2127

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But for those of us in the manual camp the only thing missing is the damned stronger IR assist beam. (If anyone who can sway the manufacturer is watching this, talk to them about the laser system sony used years ago. :) )

Agreed.




  
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Jul 31, 2013 22:54 |  #2128

PhotographersWorldWide wrote in post #16170578 (external link)
Btw.. heres the 'subjective' Cheetah battery not breaking:: Link :

Ummmm... what's your point? Are you saying that if something breaks after it fell from several feet that means it's "bad"? Let's get real. You too would break if dropped from several feet onto your head. Wait... too late for that.




  
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Jul 31, 2013 22:57 |  #2129

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Jul 31, 2013 23:09 |  #2130

dmward wrote in post #16170710 (external link)
I've been hoping for the same thing -- a website where we can all admire the great pictures he's made with his trusty QFlashes.

He has proven he's a real troll. Neither denied access or revealed his images. Just ignored it altogether. The next step for the real troll is to give some elaborate reason or justification if you will as to why he won't show us his images. :rolleyes:




  
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