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Aug 01, 2013 00:32 |  #1

Online, it says that the average 6D will last 100,000 shutter actuations. Generally speaking, when I get to around 100,000 actuations, what part of the camera breaks down? Is it the mirror that begins to not function when you get to around that number of shutter actuations? I'm not saying the camera won't last longer, but generally speaking.

That brings me to my next question. When my 6D gets to that point, if it breaks due to maximum actuations achieved, would it be cheaper to get a new camera or replace the part needed?

The only reason I ask is because I shoot lots of pictures when I go out on a shoot. At the rate I am shooting, I feel like 100,000 is not that much :/


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Aug 01, 2013 00:42 |  #2
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The shutter does, not the mirror.

Should cost around $150 to replace.


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Aug 01, 2013 00:46 |  #3

kin2son wrote in post #16171688 (external link)
The shutter does, not the mirror.

Should cost around $150 to replace.

So the shutter itself will just stop clicking? Since it is such a cheap fix, I shouldn't have anything to worry when the times comes, correct?


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Aug 01, 2013 00:48 as a reply to  @ JM Photos's post |  #4

I wouldn't even worry about it. Apparently this number is just a rating and does not refelct warranty. shutters have been known to go at 10000 and others last into the hundreds of thousands. If it goes your camera should not need anything else replaced


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Aug 01, 2013 00:50 |  #5

jaomul wrote in post #16171700 (external link)
I wouldn't even worry about it. Apparently this number is just a rating and does not refelct warranty. shutters have been known to go at 10000 and others last into the hundreds of thousands. If it goes your camera should not need anything else replaced

That is good to know. As soon as I read that, I was worried. Nice to know that it would be cheap. I wasn't counting on it going right at 100k anyway. Hopefully it doesn't go sooner. Knock on wood.


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Aug 01, 2013 01:03 |  #6

I have a 1d2 thats rated for 200000. Myshuttercount says it has done 439000. I kind of hope this isn't accurate as I bought it secondhand and the owner said he estimated it at less than 60000. But either way it works away


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Aug 01, 2013 01:21 |  #7

jaomul wrote in post #16171734 (external link)
I have a 1d2 thats rated for 200000. Myshuttercount says it has done 439000. I kind of hope this isn't accurate as I bought it secondhand and the owner said he estimated it at less than 60000. But either way it works away

That's a good amount of actuations haha. I guess all I can really do is shoot away normally and hope for the best.


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Aug 01, 2013 05:03 |  #8

Dirty Murd wrote in post #16171752 (external link)
I guess all I can really do is shoot away normally and hope for the best.

yes, almost all of the shutters are "rated" for 100k, whether you get that number or more or less is up to the shutter gods




  
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Aug 01, 2013 07:34 |  #9

In reliability or failure analysis, a stated "life" is the point at which 90% of the components will still function. Stated differently, 10% will fail by the stated life. So, if Canon follows that statistical method of calculating life, at 100,000 clicks, 90% of shutters should still be working. The science of statistical analysis is quite advanced (re: Motorola and six sigma); in the case of a Canon shutter the numbers could also predict the percentage that might reach 1,000,000 and the number likely that would fail at 10,000.




  
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Aug 01, 2013 07:57 |  #10

Dirty Murd wrote in post #16171674 (external link)
Online, it says that the average 6D will last 100,000 shutter actuations. Generally speaking, when I get to around 100,000 actuations, what part of the camera breaks down? Is it the mirror that begins to not function when you get to around that number of shutter actuations? I'm not saying the camera won't last longer, but generally speaking.

That brings me to my next question. When my 6D gets to that point, if it breaks due to maximum actuations achieved, would it be cheaper to get a new camera or replace the part needed?

The only reason I ask is because I shoot lots of pictures when I go out on a shoot. At the rate I am shooting, I feel like 100,000 is not that much :/

As you have ascertained, that number shouldn't bother you. It is just an average statistic, that has no real bearing on how long your camera will last, nor affects your warranty one way or another. Just like buying a tire rated for 50,000 miles, it is just a rating, you may never reach that, or could go well over that.

Once a camera's used prices drop down to around $400-500, it is almost cheaper to just sell the camera for parts on ebay, etc (big market), and buy someone else's lesser used item, than to send it in for repair.


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Aug 01, 2013 07:59 |  #11

John from PA wrote in post #16172117 (external link)
In reliability or failure analysis, a stated "life" is the point at which 90% of the components will still function. Stated differently, 10% will fail by the stated life. So, if Canon follows that statistical method of calculating life, at 100,000 clicks, 90% of shutters should still be working. The science of statistical analysis is quite advanced (re: Motorola and six sigma); in the case of a Canon shutter the numbers could also predict the percentage that might reach 1,000,000 and the number likely that would fail at 10,000.

It's an estimate of "average" shutter life, so roughly half should (theoretically) fail before that and half after. The figures are not arrived at by any scientific means and are clearly vague, as they quote 50k, 100k, 150k clicks, etc.

However, as with any technical product, a good proportion of the "before" failures are likely to be ones that let go quite early due to an inherent manufacturing fault, which shows up in the first 10,000 images or so. This is balanced by many bodies going way beyond the rated life.

Once you get past the initial risk period, your camera will likely give you long, reliable service and go past the rated shutter life. I don't worry about the figures though, I have never had a shutter fail and both my oldest bodies have passed the quoted rating (my first DSLR was over double its rated life when I passed it on to a friend, and it is still going strong in his hands).




  
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Aug 01, 2013 11:47 |  #12

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16172168 (external link)
Once a camera's used prices drop down to around $400-500, it is almost cheaper to just sell the camera for parts on ebay, etc (big market), and buy someone else's lesser used item, than to send it in for repair.

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Obsolescence before repair is the reality for most people. By the time you're at 100k, someone else's used body with only 10k clicks isn't much more than a repair, which as noted above, is itself so cheap as to be unimportant. In practice, it's more a way to compare the heavy dutyness of different cameras and judge the 'mileage' of someone else's (resale value).


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Aug 01, 2013 12:30 |  #13

The 100K shutter activation rating is likely an AVERAGE of some sort, possibly weighted in some manner.

So, a very large percentage will fail before 100,000 cycles and a large percentage after that. So do not necessarily think things will be perfect at 99,000 cycles and a disaster at 101,000 cycles.

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Aug 01, 2013 14:04 as a reply to  @ FlashZebra's post |  #14

The shutter life is kind of like when they say a car is good for 100K miles before it needs major work. Some will last much longer, some will die at 50K.

I have an old Rebel XT that's well over 100K clicks. Still going strong and well past what it was rated for.


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Aug 01, 2013 14:57 |  #15

i shoot timelapse with my 6D and the shutter is the least of my worries. I broke 80.000 recently and it doesnt show any signs of wear. :)


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