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Jul 18, 2013 13:07 |  #16

Snydremark wrote in post #16131666 (external link)
I would save your money, and use it on some different strengths of ND filters.

Thanks for your input. I wasn't aware of that. I already have almost a full set of Lee ND and GND filters. I just thought the VND was a good idea and wanted to get it.


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Jul 18, 2013 13:20 |  #17

jlt23 wrote in post #16131916 (external link)
Thanks for your input. I wasn't aware of that. I already have almost a full set of Lee ND and GND filters. I just thought the VND was a good idea and wanted to get it.

Yeah; I bought mine before I had the Lees. I'd just get a Big Stopper to add to the rest of your kit and stack the lower power NDs if you want something less than 10 stops.

The variable could, still, be useful if you're packing for a smaller kit that you don't want to haul the filter holder, plus filters, etc in. However, even in that case, I'd go look at the Fader or....damn...there's another one that's shown up recent.....Haida! I think that's the other one to take a look at. Can be had for *much* less than the Singh Ray and seem to produce nice results (with the previously mentioned caveats).


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Jul 18, 2013 15:44 |  #18

Snydremark wrote in post #16131944 (external link)
I'd just get a Big Stopper to add to the rest of your kit and stack the lower power NDs if you want something less than 10 stops.

I already have the Big Stopper as well. :D


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Jul 19, 2013 11:19 as a reply to  @ jlt23's post |  #19

Soapstar wrote in post #16125893 (external link)
Yes i think the best plan of action is to buy some cheap filters and find out where i stand with them, if there not good enough then its not much money lost!

It's a funny balance. Buying cheap, you don't invest much but demand is low and there isn't much incentive to resell so you end up losing 100% of a litte. Buying good, you invest more but demand is high, with a good incentive to resell. Add in depreciation (better has less) and cheaper can cost much more.

gonzogolf wrote in post #16125931 (external link)
The problem is throwing on an ND filter doesnt change the nature of the light. A shot mid-day without an ND filter will be overly contrasty and hard because the dynamic range exceeds the camera's ability to record it. If you add an ND filter the exposure length is increased, but the dynamic range issues are still in play. I guess what I am saying is this, crap light is crap light no matter how long your exposure is so if you want to get quality images you need to resign yourself to shooting when the light is good. There is a reason that landscape photographers are often done by breakfast and late for dinner.

Thank you for this! Can't imagine what would happen to photography if DR was suddenly brought anywhere near 'natures cameras'.


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Jul 19, 2013 11:34 |  #20

ElectronGuru wrote in post #16134755 (external link)
Thank you for this! Can't imagine what would happen to photography if DR was suddenly brought anywhere near 'natures cameras'.

Even if the camera could capture the dynamic range of your eye, it still might not help that much. Go outside at noon on a sunny day, look at the contrast range between the highlights and the hard shadows beneath trees. Even with the miracle that is your eye mid day sun gives you washed out highlights and hard edged dark shadows. You would still want to do landscape photography in light that gently models the features of the land, rather than carves it up in shadows.




  
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Aug 05, 2013 05:36 as a reply to  @ post 16131666 |  #21

Tony8 wrote in post #16128574 (external link)
Was looking at the cheap £7.49 amazon ones too, so would appreciate it if you could post up some feedback + test shots when they arrive?

Thanks in advance Soapstar, and thanks to all other contributors for your input as it has helped me too :)

As promised here is some examples of these (external link) filters in action. These pictures aren't master pieces, just to show the effect.

All photos were taken at f/16 and the only PP done was slight exposure adjustments and lens correction.

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ND2 - 1 Stop:

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ND4 - 2 Stop:

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ND8 - 3 Stop:

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For a beginner like myself getting into the world of ND filters i think these are good enough to get started with. Although to my eye they do cast a blue tint over the image. Whats everyone's thoughts on these filters?

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Aug 05, 2013 09:12 |  #22

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Aug 05, 2013 09:38 |  #23

Soapstar wrote in post #16182251 (external link)
As promised here is some examples of these (external link) filters in action. These pictures aren't master pieces, just to show the effect.

All photos were taken at f/16 and the only PP done was slight exposure adjustments and lens correction.

Original:

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ND2 - 1 Stop:

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ND4 - 2 Stop:

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ND8 - 3 Stop:

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For a beginner like myself getting into the world of ND filters i think these are good enough to get started with. Although to my eye they do cast a blue tint over the image. Whats everyone's thoughts on these filters?

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Soapstar used the page URLs not the image URLs.
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Aug 05, 2013 09:52 |  #24

Jon wrote in post #16182634 (external link)
Soapstar used the page URLs not the image URLs.
How to post images from Flickr:
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1228137

Sorry! Think thats it fixed now! :D


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Aug 05, 2013 10:14 |  #25

The best reasonably-priced ND's in my opinion are the B+W solids in 1.8x and 3.0x (6 and 10 stops, respectively.) They start around $55 for a 58mm filter size.


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Aug 09, 2013 20:34 |  #26

Cheers Soapstar - I went ahead and ordered them too. They arrived last week but I haven't had a chance to use them yet, but they look ok for the money judging by your shots.


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Aug 13, 2013 03:52 |  #27

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Cheers Soapstar - I went ahead and ordered them too. They arrived last week but I haven't had a chance to use them yet, but they look ok for the money judging by your shots.

No problem mate. Yeah they are not too bad actually, gives you a chance to explore a whole different side to photography! Although stacking them does reduce the quality but that is expected. From using these i have decided that a 6 stop filter will suit my needs...


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Aug 13, 2013 04:20 |  #28

Have you checked this thread oot?

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=767152




  
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Aug 13, 2013 05:34 as a reply to  @ seall's post |  #29

I use the Haida Slim Pro 10 stop - very pleased with the results, virtually no colour cast or effect on IQ>


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Aug 15, 2013 04:52 |  #30

Cheers..that looks interesting! Can easily get my hands on plenty of welding glass too! :D

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I use the Haida Slim Pro 10 stop - very pleased with the results, virtually no colour cast or effect on IQ>

I had a look at these. Think its a toss up between the haida and hoya?!


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