sydneyshooter wrote in post #16183966
Sorry, that's a cop out and if you really believe it, you need to have a rethink on how you go about your work.
Was anyone here paying for the guys portraits?
Who cares what a bunch of photographers think? Wouldn't the only opinion that mattered be the one of the person paying the Bill?
You mean a lot of advise from photographers that look at things totally different to a client and the majority of whom pointed out things that were of no concern to the client in the first place?
For all you know he was entirely happy with everything else and changing something according to the advise you got here would have made him unhappy with the results.
If you already knew what he didn't like, then asking the question you did was a waste of peoples time and completely irrelevant.
That's pretty funny because you specifically asked for criticism. The thing you are upset about is someone gave you a dose of reality rather than something you wanted to hear which I suspect was platitudes over all.
You got a dozen different bits of advise on what was wrong but still you needed to go back to the client and find out what they thought which is exactly the advise I gave if you were able to comprehend it.
If everyone here said you should have used a blue background, would you have done that whether the client wanted it or not? If you wouldn't, then obviously what the client thinks is more important than what anyone else does.
The advise I gave may not have been sugar coated or direct but had you taken any heed and not got upset because it wasn't what you wanted to hear, you would have seen the that advise was both obvious and completely correct.
Which begs the question why you didn't do that in the first place?
Oh, you had to do a rush job right?
No time to do it properly but always time to do it over 'eh?
Well it's clear how that strategy turned out. Perhaps it might be better in future if the same situation arises to make a time to come back to do the job properly rather than to rush it and have the client disappointed and having a less than impressed opinion of your work ( and no doubt telling other people he wasn't happy with his pics.)
The guy appears to be a professional of some sort. I guess you could always ask would you like to reschedule the job for another time so I can do it properly and make sure you are happy with the results or would you prefer I rush it through now and take pot luck on what I can get?
No doubt being a professional he will have his own standard of doing things and can tell you what that preference is. I think I might be able to predict what he would say though.
I know my replies are not sugar coated, I don't believe in it because I do try to make people think and work things out in their own minds, particularly about obvious answers.
I have found that by being direct people either have the penny drop and go on to improve and keep things in mind or they get butt hurt and indignant and will continue to make the same mistake again.
It' a great indication of a persons real outlook and potential to be great rather than just mediocre in my mind.
One person learns and progresses, the other goes off thinking I'm a bastard and they are right and don't learn a thing.
Completely up to you to decide which way you want to go but I'll guarantee you will think of this thread next time the problem comes up and will ask the client what they didn't like before and if you ask anyone else!